24 carries for 84 yards = 3.5 yards per carry 17 of 30 for 284 yards = 9.5 yards per attempt and 16.7 yards per completion 54 total offensive plays for 368 yards = 6.8 yards per offensive play 30 total points (7 from special teams) = 8.2 points per 100 yards of offense 0 turnovers
2016 Offensive Game Stats:
30 carries for 91 yards = 3.0 yards per carry 20 of 29 for 289 yards = 10.0 yards per attempt and 14.5 yards per completion 59 offensive plays for 380 yards = 6.4 yards per offensive play 48 total points (14 from special teams) = 12.6 points per 100 yards of offense 1 turnover
2017 Defensive Game Stats:
42 carries for 131 yards = 3.1 yards per carry 24 for 35 for 178 yards = 5.1 yards per attempt and 7.4 yards per completion 77 defensive plays for 309 yards = 4.0 yards per defensive play 14 total points allowed = 4.5 yards per 100 yards allowed 2 turnovers = 1 turnover for every 38.5 defensive plays
2016 Defensive Game Stats:
48 carries for 136 yards = 2.8 yards per carry 24 of 40 for 168 yards = 4.2 yards per attempt and 7.0 yards per completion 88 defensive plays for 304 yards = 3.5 yards per defensive play 13 total points allowed = 4.3 yards per 100 yards allowed 3 turnovers = 1 turnover for every 29 defensive plays
They are basically the same game and the same stats ... Rutgers is a little better than they were last year ... one was at home and one was on the road.
Perspective is obviously hard ...
If you were to go by stats then the Pac 12 is the best conference in the country. But if you watch the games you know that isn't close to true. You can post perspective stats all day. But last years game was over in the 1st quarter. And this years game you trailed almost the whole first half and looked like dawgshit doing it. Sure a W's a W and you can spin your stats however you want, but you guys looked like shit for 2 quarters against the Oregon State of the Big 10.
So what I'm hearing is that if you switch the halves around then everything makes a lot more sense ... got it
like I've said multiple times that this was the same as last year (especially about the ol) but I'm not sure stats dump is the way to prove that. 99% of people already understand this and the 1% who don't aren't going to be swayed by a post like this
The thing is that the reason you look at it over a larger sample size is because things tend to even out ...
I don't necessarily disagree that we should have higher expectations, etc., but the reality is that this game, and our next two games, will all be vanilla in spots and our priorities aren't to go boat race each of these overmatched teams.
If that's the standard that most have then they will be bound to be disappointed.
24 carries for 84 yards = 3.5 yards per carry 17 of 30 for 284 yards = 9.5 yards per attempt and 16.7 yards per completion 54 total offensive plays for 368 yards = 6.8 yards per offensive play 30 total points (7 from special teams) = 8.2 points per 100 yards of offense 0 turnovers
2016 Offensive Game Stats:
30 carries for 91 yards = 3.0 yards per carry 20 of 29 for 289 yards = 10.0 yards per attempt and 14.5 yards per completion 59 offensive plays for 380 yards = 6.4 yards per offensive play 48 total points (14 from special teams) = 12.6 points per 100 yards of offense 1 turnover
2017 Defensive Game Stats:
42 carries for 131 yards = 3.1 yards per carry 24 for 35 for 178 yards = 5.1 yards per attempt and 7.4 yards per completion 77 defensive plays for 309 yards = 4.0 yards per defensive play 14 total points allowed = 4.5 yards per 100 yards allowed 2 turnovers = 1 turnover for every 38.5 defensive plays
2016 Defensive Game Stats:
48 carries for 136 yards = 2.8 yards per carry 24 of 40 for 168 yards = 4.2 yards per attempt and 7.0 yards per completion 88 defensive plays for 304 yards = 3.5 yards per defensive play 13 total points allowed = 4.3 yards per 100 yards allowed 3 turnovers = 1 turnover for every 29 defensive plays
They are basically the same game and the same stats ... Rutgers is a little better than they were last year ... one was at home and one was on the road.
Perspective is obviously hard ...
If you were to go by stats then the Pac 12 is the best conference in the country. But if you watch the games you know that isn't close to true. You can post perspective stats all day. But last years game was over in the 1st quarter. And this years game you trailed almost the whole first half and looked like dawgshit doing it. Sure a W's a W and you can spin your stats however you want, but you guys looked like shit for 2 quarters against the Oregon State of the Big 10.
So what I'm hearing is that if you switch the halves around then everything makes a lot more sense ... got it
You think that somehow both games against Rutgers were the same and use fuzzy math to back up your point. But those that watch and know the game see that is inaccurate at best and a flat out lie at worst.
like I've said multiple times that this was the same as last year (especially about the ol) but I'm not sure stats dump is the way to prove that. 99% of people already understand this and the 1% who don't aren't going to be swayed by a post like this
The thing is that the reason you look at it over a larger sample size is because things tend to even out ...
I don't necessarily disagree that we should have higher expectations, etc., but the reality is that this game, and our next two games, will all be vanilla in spots and our priorities aren't to go boat race each of these overmatched teams.
If that's the standard that most have then they will be bound to be disappointed.
like I've said multiple times that this was the same as last year (especially about the ol) but I'm not sure stats dump is the way to prove that. 99% of people already understand this and the 1% who don't aren't going to be swayed by a post like this
The thing is that the reason you look at it over a larger sample size is because things tend to even out ...
I don't necessarily disagree that we should have higher expectations, etc., but the reality is that this game, and our next two games, will all be vanilla in spots and our priorities aren't to go boat race each of these overmatched teams.
If that's the standard that most have then they will be bound to be disappointed.
The thing that bothers me is how we used Gaskin. Our first series should have featured him as our number one running back. The point of these games is practice for conference play and we need to simulate some real play. Having Gaskin run the ball late isn't the same. I suspect this concept bothers some people even if they haven't said it.
Like we all recognize we haven't opened up the full playbook, etc and I don't think most people have am issue with that. The real issue to me is how Jonathan Smith calls really stupid things, not that in week 1 we aren't executing perfectly.
2. Defense was significantly more dominant in 2016. 2017 gave up 14.3% more yards per play even though in 2016 Rutgers gained 133 of its 304 yards on the last three drives after UW was up 48-3.
Are they?
The expectations to me are exactly the same ... win the PAC North, win the P12 Championship, get into the CFP and see where things wind up.
LOL at 14%+ more yards per play ... that's just fucking comical.
Since you like to bring fucktarded stats to the table thinking you have me in a "gotcha" moment, Rutgers gained 103 of their total yards in the 4th quarter on their last 3 drives after UW was up 27-7.
One game was at home and one on the road (generally play better at home).
Rutgers has more talent this year with all of their transfers than what they had last year.
Analysis is clearly not your strong suit ...
I am having a HARD time posting this is probably a triple post...
27-7 not the same as 48-3 with a full quarter to go but regardless lets remove both fourth quarters:
2016: 2.81 yards per play. 2017: 3.61 yards per play.
If you were trying to work/develop areas of our offense in the preseason, where would you focus?
I'd make sure all of your ones get live snaps together first and foremost. I'd focus on putting up some points with the ones to make sure they get the experience that you can't get in practice. After that (1Q likely) it is giving OL bonding time and getting experience to the rest of the team, evaluating who can handle the pressure of games vs practice, etc.
I agree people have been overreacting but just comparing the stats of the two games doesn't show the entire picture. Last years game was over by half time and scrubs played the entire second half basically. This years game our starters played longer and we didn't put the game out of reach until the 4th quarter.
Starters weren't on there longer
Holy fuckall.... we have second stringers in on the second possession. That's what he does he plays backups early in the year.
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I don't necessarily disagree that we should have higher expectations, etc., but the reality is that this game, and our next two games, will all be vanilla in spots and our priorities aren't to go boat race each of these overmatched teams.
If that's the standard that most have then they will be bound to be disappointed.
Like we all recognize we haven't opened up the full playbook, etc and I don't think most people have am issue with that. The real issue to me is how Jonathan Smith calls really stupid things, not that in week 1 we aren't executing perfectly.
27-7 not the same as 48-3 with a full quarter to go but regardless lets remove both fourth quarters:
2016: 2.81 yards per play.
2017: 3.61 yards per play.
28% worse.
If you were trying to work/develop areas of our offense in the preseason, where would you focus?
Holy fuckall.... we have second stringers in on the second possession. That's what he does he plays backups early in the year.