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Bailey "Music From the" Elder, 4* 2019 OL, Tacoma (Stadium), WA

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    CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    BallzDeep said:

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    Maybe pump the brakes and wait to see if he ever gets offered before jizzing all over the place. Sark would have been all over him already but he ain't getting offered by Petersen until they see him perform against legit competition in person.

    The whole point of this fucking bored is to have opinions, right or wrong. It would be boring as fuck if we all took your advice. That's why I love this place, because no one is just blind to the fucking coaches or nazi mods. I might be wrong on him, but I enjoy putting an opinion out so one day roaddawg can make fun of me for it.

    "I'll just wait to see what the coaches do and then I'll decide what I think, hurr durr!"
    You're right. I apologize. I don't give a fuck that you're massively wrong. Go ahead.
    What a dud you are, ballzdeep. SAD!
    I said go ahead. Enjoy yourself. Hell, pleasure yourself to the thought of UW having retard strength along the O-line. I don't care.
    So what don't you like about him? I seriously want to hear!
    Never said I didn't like him. He's a good athlete. Definitely a D1 prospect. But you were talking about him like he's some under the radar 5* talent and he's not. Time will tell if he's a Mountain West/Big Sky guy or a legit Pac-12 guy. This video of him and other prospects including Kalepo and your favorite Marco Da Monsta competing at May Madness will bring your perception of him back down to Earth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RSyAkG2UcE

    God you are a fucking retard. Bailey Elder is a fucking boss. Big Sky? Are you fucked?

    Fucking May Madness? Are you fucking kidding me? Christ alfuckingmighty.
    May Madness is the same exact shit the coaches are looking at when they have their Dirt Dawgs camp. If Elder was as good as you claim he is he would already have an offer. I don't see him ever being offered by this staff unless they miss on their top targets.
    He's one game into his junior year. We offer tons of guys in the Spring of their junior year.

    The only thing I agree with you on is that Elder probably warrants a lot of research because of his disability.
    Your last sentence is my worry. Our coaches will do a ton of reasearch/checking into him because of that too.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    I have been able to watch Elder up close for almost three years now. He has improved exponentially this past off-season, I believe he is training with FSP now. He will be, IMO, a bubble recruit somewhere with a strong MW team (BSU?) or a weaker PAC-12 team (OSU/ Cal/ WSU). I do think it is possible that UW offers him (next spring earliest) but to date they have shown little/ no interest. Even at Dirt Dawgs camp there were other 2019 recruits that Huff was very focused on and chatting up (several in particular he purposely grabbed and put with the seniors, Elder was not among them). This could all change quickly if he keeps playing like he has though- against serious talent. If offered, I pretty much guarantee he will go to UW.

    This will likely be a break out year for him but he is not big time talent yet. He very well could be though and his frame is clearly in the Elite size category.

    Size and strength are dime a dozen, but his movement is extremely rare. Also













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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    I have been able to watch Elder up close for almost three years now. He has improved exponentially this past off-season, I believe he is training with FSP now. He will be, IMO, a bubble recruit somewhere with a strong MW team (BSU?) or a weaker PAC-12 team (OSU/ Cal/ WSU). I do think it is possible that UW offers him (next spring earliest) but to date they have shown little/ no interest. Even at Dirt Dawgs camp there were other 2019 recruits that Huff was very focused on and chatting up (several in particular he purposely grabbed and put with the seniors, Elder was not among them). This could all change quickly if he keeps playing like he has though- against serious talent. If offered, I pretty much guarantee he will go to UW.

    This will likely be a break out year for him but he is not big time talent yet. He very well could be though and his frame is clearly in the Elite size category.

    Size and strength are dime a dozen, but his movement is extremely rare. Also


    LEAVE
    Um no, his mobility is certainly not elite even for his size. So no. Huff literally ignored him at DD. And GFY.
    (Btw, the "LEAVE" thing is a hardcorehusky meme. Don't get offended by it. Same with "Fuck Off!" .... That's a Tequilla thing ... enjoy your stay)
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    dumpsterchairdumpsterchair Member Posts: 62
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    animate said:

    I have been able to watch Elder up close for almost three years now. He has improved exponentially this past off-season, I believe he is training with FSP now. He will be, IMO, a bubble recruit somewhere with a strong MW team (BSU?) or a weaker PAC-12 team (OSU/ Cal/ WSU). I do think it is possible that UW offers him (next spring earliest) but to date they have shown little/ no interest. Even at Dirt Dawgs camp there were other 2019 recruits that Huff was very focused on and chatting up (several in particular he purposely grabbed and put with the seniors, Elder was not among them). This could all change quickly if he keeps playing like he has though- against serious talent. If offered, I pretty much guarantee he will go to UW.

    This will likely be a break out year for him but he is not big time talent yet. He very well could be though and his frame is clearly in the Elite size category.

    Size and strength are dime a dozen, but his movement is extremely rare. Also


    LEAVE
    Um no, his mobility is certainly not elite even for his size. So no. Huff literally ignored him at DD. And GFY.
    (Btw, the "LEAVE" thing is a hardcorehusky meme. Don't get offended by it. Same with "Fuck Off!" .... That's a Tequilla thing ... enjoy your stay)
    I'm not losing any sleep over it but good looking out.
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    rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942
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    It doesn't matter that he was blocking kids about 169 lbs tops?? I have zero doubt he could step onto husky field tmrw and block any and all kickers/punters in the pac.

    No, it doesn't matter.
    Disagree. Good prospect, but take a Xanax on this one dawgy
    Why does it matter? Why are you watching other players besides the person you are evaluating?

    His feet are incredible, his technique is sound, he pulls like a mother fucker... not one of those things have anything to do with opponent.
    I was trying to watch Wellington tape one time and all I could see was Hunter Bryant. That must have been ignorant of me.
    That's fine, I do that too. But you don't need to consider competition when seeing how someone moves or how they play the game. Taylor Rapp is the perfect example, he played no one in HS but he moved so well and played as hard as anyone I had seen.

    Edit: And I understand his competition was really poor, but no matter who we are recruiting in HS the competition when they get to CFB is going to be MASSIVELY different. Everyone understands that, it's just the question of, "Do they have the talent/tools needed to play or get developed at the college level."
    Thank u for seeing my POV. Not attacking just trying to balance the highs. I want him as well. Every team needs a retard or two.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    Recruiting bored... just fucking awful as of late. Pretty sure I have retina cancer.
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    rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942
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    Slmdawg said:

    Not to make this a pop psychology class, but Autism can mean lot's of different things. Almost everyone jumps to some sort of Rainman type of mental picture. To call them retarded is far from the truth. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are both on the spectrum somewhere. To call them retarded is simply admitting to one's personal inability to achieve at a level that they have. Why are they successful? Unwavering abilities to focus, establish and execute plans while ingnoring social traps that come with the outcomes of those plans. Buffett is worth over $70 billion dollars, yet lives in a $300,000 house, drives a $50,000 Cadillac, and eats an Egg McMuffin every morning. He could afford upgrades in all aspects 1000x what we utilizes, but sees that extravagance as a distraction from the goal. He loves to do nothing more that to exist in his successful routine that works for him, and doesn't care how others perceive it. You could argue that being able to do that is a huge advantage. College football is all about following a very regimented routine. This sort of situation may really cater to an Autistic person if they can hack the physical part.

    Usually, the biggest hurdle autistic people face physically are large motor functions (obviously this kid has managed to overcome many of those based on film.) I guarantee that a person that functions at this level while having Asbergers has done nothing but redundant work to get there, as they are almost never athlethically gifted from the start. From the interviews that I've seen, he seems to have no trouble communicating. So, socially he's probably ok. Having known a few people like this, you could call there honestly "blunt and refreshing". It looks like he's already started 2 seasons of varsity ball, in a very proficient offense (I saw in the team stats that they averaged over 40 points per game and about 500 yards per game).

    Like it or not, most people that invent, innovate and lead show signs, if undiagnosed, of being somewhere on the spectrum.

    So where exactly on the spectrum are Bill and Warren? They clearly are since u said so.
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    theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,568
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    Sources said:

    I'm hearing that Ballzdeep is significantly higher on the spectrum than Elder

    I put a lot of faith in my @Sources. This must be true.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,486
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    Slmdawg said:

    Not to make this a pop psychology class, but Autism can mean lot's of different things. Almost everyone jumps to some sort of Rainman type of mental picture. To call them retarded is far from the truth. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are both on the spectrum somewhere. To call them retarded is simply admitting to one's personal inability to achieve at a level that they have. Why are they successful? Unwavering abilities to focus, establish and execute plans while ingnoring social traps that come with the outcomes of those plans. Buffett is worth over $70 billion dollars, yet lives in a $300,000 house, drives a $50,000 Cadillac, and eats an Egg McMuffin every morning. He could afford upgrades in all aspects 1000x what we utilizes, but sees that extravagance as a distraction from the goal. He loves to do nothing more that to exist in his successful routine that works for him, and doesn't care how others perceive it. You could argue that being able to do that is a huge advantage. College football is all about following a very regimented routine. This sort of situation may really cater to an Autistic person if they can hack the physical part.

    Usually, the biggest hurdle autistic people face physically are large motor functions (obviously this kid has managed to overcome many of those based on film.) I guarantee that a person that functions at this level while having Asbergers has done nothing but redundant work to get there, as they are almost never athlethically gifted from the start. From the interviews that I've seen, he seems to have no trouble communicating. So, socially he's probably ok. Having known a few people like this, you could call there honestly "blunt and refreshing". It looks like he's already started 2 seasons of varsity ball, in a very proficient offense (I saw in the team stats that they averaged over 40 points per game and about 500 yards per game).

    Like it or not, most people that invent, innovate and lead show signs, if undiagnosed, of being somewhere on the spectrum.

    So where exactly on the spectrum are Bill and Warren? They clearly are since u said so.
    I've heard this assertion a lot, never seen the evidence. 81% of all social retards are probably on the spectrum, though. Especially engineers.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    edited September 2017

    Recruiting bored... just fucking awful as of late. Pretty sure I have retina cancer.

    It is the offseason, ppl are working on honing their skills for the real season to start in December
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    Recruiting bored... just fucking awful as of late. Pretty sure I have retina cancer.

    It is the offseason, ppl are working on honing their skills for the real season to start in December
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    SlmdawgSlmdawg Member Posts: 94
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    Slmdawg said:

    Not to make this a pop psychology class, but Autism can mean lot's of different things. Almost everyone jumps to some sort of Rainman type of mental picture. To call them retarded is far from the truth. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are both on the spectrum somewhere. To call them retarded is simply admitting to one's personal inability to achieve at a level that they have. Why are they successful? Unwavering abilities to focus, establish and execute plans while ingnoring social traps that come with the outcomes of those plans. Buffett is worth over $70 billion dollars, yet lives in a $300,000 house, drives a $50,000 Cadillac, and eats an Egg McMuffin every morning. He could afford upgrades in all aspects 1000x what we utilizes, but sees that extravagance as a distraction from the goal. He loves to do nothing more that to exist in his successful routine that works for him, and doesn't care how others perceive it. You could argue that being able to do that is a huge advantage. College football is all about following a very regimented routine. This sort of situation may really cater to an Autistic person if they can hack the physical part.

    Usually, the biggest hurdle autistic people face physically are large motor functions (obviously this kid has managed to overcome many of those based on film.) I guarantee that a person that functions at this level while having Asbergers has done nothing but redundant work to get there, as they are almost never athlethically gifted from the start. From the interviews that I've seen, he seems to have no trouble communicating. So, socially he's probably ok. Having known a few people like this, you could call there honestly "blunt and refreshing". It looks like he's already started 2 seasons of varsity ball, in a very proficient offense (I saw in the team stats that they averaged over 40 points per game and about 500 yards per game).

    Like it or not, most people that invent, innovate and lead show signs, if undiagnosed, of being somewhere on the spectrum.

    So where exactly on the spectrum are Bill and Warren? They clearly are since u said so.
    Bill Gates has an Aspergers diagnosis. Warren Buffett doesn't have a known diagnosis, but after reading his biography and watching many interviews with him, it's pretty obvious.
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