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What is the right amount of Basic Income?

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,854 Founders Club
    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I'd love to hear your solution to the oncoming crisis of mass-automation
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,854 Founders Club

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Sure if you want to live in your 2 dad's basement and subsist on ramen and Mountain Dew. But if you want hookers and blow you still gotta get a job at Orkin or something. The beauty of UBI is that is doesn't penalize one from taking the crummy job.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Sure if you want to live in your 2 dad's basement and subsist on ramen and Mountain Dew. But if you want hookers and blow you still gotta get a job at Orkin or something. The beauty of UBI is that is doesn't penalize one from taking the crummy job.
    True true. 800 bucks a month isn't gonna get me too far. Maybe if I pop out a few kids I can get more.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    You plan on popping out kids and stealing their basic income?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Swaye said:

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Stop appropriating my culture.
    I read war and assumed @Dardanus was the one being appropriated.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    I like mine. $100k, insurances that cover everything so well a catastrophic event means nothing financially, 5% IRA matching, and 1% for every year worked for a pension based on your three highest income years.

    Also if you hit 30 years and are at your minimum retirement age you get a Social Security bridge gap that equals your early Social Security amount. Dumbo wants to take this away though, even though he started receiving Social Security as a small child.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    I think we should let people vote every 4 years on how much their Basic Income should be.