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What is the right amount of Basic Income?

doogie
doogie Member Posts: 15,072
We should all be receiving?
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    What is the right's solution for 95% of current jobs being automated?
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    Aren't you a strip mall stock broker who works for Scotttrade or Fidelity? So probably slightly more than whatever your annual income is.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    $7.11 per .28 hour of course.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    However much somebody is willing to pay you for the work you do.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Out of the loop, I see
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    However much somebody is willing to pay you for the work you do.

    Radical idea. Don't think it will work
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    However much somebody is willing to pay you for the work you do.

    You better check your privilege.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I'd love to hear your solution to the oncoming crisis of mass-automation
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Sure if you want to live in your 2 dad's basement and subsist on ramen and Mountain Dew. But if you want hookers and blow you still gotta get a job at Orkin or something. The beauty of UBI is that is doesn't penalize one from taking the crummy job.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Sure if you want to live in your 2 dad's basement and subsist on ramen and Mountain Dew. But if you want hookers and blow you still gotta get a job at Orkin or something. The beauty of UBI is that is doesn't penalize one from taking the crummy job.
    True true. 800 bucks a month isn't gonna get me too far. Maybe if I pop out a few kids I can get more.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    You plan on popping out kids and stealing their basic income?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Swaye said:

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    Idle poverty is our war cry on HH.
    Stop appropriating my culture.
    I read war and assumed @Dardanus was the one being appropriated.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    I like mine. $100k, insurances that cover everything so well a catastrophic event means nothing financially, 5% IRA matching, and 1% for every year worked for a pension based on your three highest income years.

    Also if you hit 30 years and are at your minimum retirement age you get a Social Security bridge gap that equals your early Social Security amount. Dumbo wants to take this away though, even though he started receiving Social Security as a small child.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    I think we should let people vote every 4 years on how much their Basic Income should be.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Charles Murray, a prominent conservative political scientist, who made news of late as being the speaker the snowflakes rioted against at Middlebury, thinks it should be around $10,000 a year deposited into a certifiable bank account (Healthcare would be separate deal). No taxes on your first $30,000 (including the universal basic income) so as to remove dis-incentive from going out and getting a low paying job. Logic is that having $30,000 a year will be better for most, than $10,000 even if you have to earn it by showing up at a job. Right now too many in our society are choosing idle poverty (e.g., disability payments) over working poverty, because there's not much difference financially.

    You get basic income AND a job? no. I don't think that's how it works
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    100% commission... About that time share..
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    People either love or hate their time share. Buyback/ resell bidness is big
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dhdawg said:

    I'd love to hear your solution to the oncoming crisis of mass-automation

    It isn't a crisis. It won't happen over night. When Race was a kid, everyone thought there would be meal replicators and flying cars in every home and garage by the year 2000. Outside of manufacturing, automation to replace humans has advanced at a snails pace. And we don't hardly manufacture squat here anymore, anyway.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    What is the right's solution for 95% of current jobs being automated?

    THE ROBOTS ARE COMING!!!!!


    THE ROBOTS ARE COMING!!!!



    Fuck I hate stupid liberals.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter
    There's an easy way to make this work. Set the minimum income at whatever they want. Then simply mark your tax return to give the required percentage of your own income to fund the plan. Those opposing handouts wont have to pay and all those nice people wanting to give away money can easily do so. Program goes in the shitter because those wanting it won't pay.

    Problem solved. End of discussion.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    There's an easy way to make this work. Set the minimum income at whatever they want. Then simply mark your tax return to give the required percentage of your own income to fund the plan. Those opposing handouts wont have to pay and all those nice people wanting to give away money can easily do so. Program goes in the shitter because those wanting it won't pay.

    Problem solved. End of discussion.

    Can we do the same with the military?

    Asking for a friend.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    There's an easy way to make this work. Set the minimum income at whatever they want. Then simply mark your tax return to give the required percentage of your own income to fund the plan. Those opposing handouts wont have to pay and all those nice people wanting to give away money can easily do so. Program goes in the shitter because those wanting it won't pay.

    Problem solved. End of discussion.

    Can we do the same with the military?

    Asking for a friend.
    Today, boobs finds a conscience to go long with his objector.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Guys, don't worry, technology won't take over your job. We don't even have flying cars yet. I mean we all carry around fucking computers in our pockets but technology is moving at a snails pace.