FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they found Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
I worked with FDR once...
Wednesday was the anniversary of his death in 1945. Back in the day when weSCare was fun to visit there was this one JapAm poaster, troyboyLA I think, who absolutely despised FDR solely on the basis of EO9066, conveniently forgetting everything else the guy did in his 12+ years as President. Every April 12 I'd remind him of FDR's death, ask him if he had any celebrations planned, and we'd get into it all over again. Good times
@BearsWiin speaking of 20th century US History, who would you say is the most famous of all Cal Rowing Alumni?
You're probably expecting me to say Bob McNamara, but I gotta go with Gregory Peck
I'll give you gold star for either. McNamara is the more important figure in history, whereas Peck is more well known to most Americans. Other than a recent NY Times Best Seller, our crew's history doesn't have much in the way of star power, so win for the Bears here.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Agree on Wilson.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget Zhukov kicked the shit out of the Japs before Stalin brought him in to kick the shit out of the Wehrmacht in the gold medal round at Kursk.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Agree on Wilson.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
Someone had to break the seal on the socialism thing; it was inevitable. Why not a rich guy cripple to break the bad news to his friends?
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
The PNW should give thanks to FDR daily. Without him, this area is half New Mexico and half Maine.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget Zhukov kicked the shit out of the Japs before Stalin brought him in to kick the shit out of the Wehrmacht in the gold medal round at Kursk.
People forget the flank master.
Stalin was a master of buying time with space and blood, until he could get the right guys in there.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Agree on Wilson.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
Someone had to break the seal on the socialism thing; it was inevitable. Why not a rich guy cripple to break the bad news to his friends?
People who weren't there like I was don't always understand the pressure on capitalism after the stock market crash. Makes 2008 seem like a walk in the park with pseudo wall street occupiers checking their cell phones.
There was real pressure on the US Government. There were a lot of unemployed men with nothing better to do than to cause trouble. A lot of what FDR did was good and needed but the consequence was of course, that once unleashed government will never get smaller, it will only continue to get bigger
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
The PNW should give thanks to FDR daily. Without him, this area is half New Mexico and half Maine.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City.
Motherfucking this @PurpleThrobber ! People forgot how much Bonneville and Grand Coulee contributed towards our war effort. What takes a shit ton of juice to produce? Answer: enriched plutonium and aluminum for planes. What country in WWII had a ridiculous amount of cheap electricity to get the job done?
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
The PNW should give thanks to FDR daily. Without him, this area is half New Mexico and half Maine.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City.
Motherfucking this @PurpleThrobber ! People forgot how much Bonneville and Grand Coulee contributed towards our war effort. What takes a shit ton of juice to produce? Answer: enriched plutonium and aluminum for planes. What country in WWII had a ridiculous amount of cheap electricity to get the job done?
Trump needs to drop another MOAB and schedule a rally at a random American school...say this one.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.
Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
Agree on Wilson.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
Someone had to break the seal on the socialism thing; it was inevitable. Why not a rich guy cripple to break the bad news to his friends?
People who weren't there like I was don't always understand the pressure on capitalism after the stock market crash. Makes 2008 seem like a walk in the park with pseudo wall street occupiers checking their cell phones.
There was real pressure on the US Government. There were a lot of unemployed men with nothing better to do than to cause trouble. A lot of what FDR did was good and needed but the consequence was of course, that once unleashed government will never get smaller, it will only continue to get bigger
Score one for the geezer here. Probably FDR's greatest achievement was to keep the political spectrum in the US narrow at a time when other industrial democracies were grappling with, at times, outright conflict between socialists/communists and fascists. Here, those parties were present but kept to fringe status, which is good, because those parties in other countries were the ones to advocate throwing out their existing constitutions and try something new.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmacht
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmachtthe Finns
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the Wehrmachtthe Finns
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But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
People forget the flank master.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City.
There was real pressure on the US Government. There were a lot of unemployed men with nothing better to do than to cause trouble. A lot of what FDR did was good and needed but the consequence was of course, that once unleashed government will never get smaller, it will only continue to get bigger
Trump needs to drop another MOAB and schedule a rally at a random American school...say this one.