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People who weren't there like I was don't always understand the pressure on capitalism after the stock market crash. Makes 2008 seem like a walk in the park with pseudo wall street occupiers checking their cell phones.YellowSnow said:
Someone had to break the seal on the socialism thing; it was inevitable. Why not a rich guy cripple to break the bad news to his friends?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree on Wilson.YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
There was real pressure on the US Government. There were a lot of unemployed men with nothing better to do than to cause trouble. A lot of what FDR did was good and needed but the consequence was of course, that once unleashed government will never get smaller, it will only continue to get bigger -
Motherfucking this @PurpleThrobber ! People forgot how much Bonneville and Grand Coulee contributed towards our war effort. What takes a shit ton of juice to produce? Answer: enriched plutonium and aluminum for planes. What country in WWII had a ridiculous amount of cheap electricity to get the job done?PurpleThrobber said:YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
The PNW should give thanks to FDR daily. Without him, this area is half New Mexico and half Maine.YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City. -
YellowSnow said:
Motherfucking this @PurpleThrobber ! People forgot how much Bonneville and Grand Coulee contributed towards our war effort. What takes a shit ton of juice to produce? Answer: enriched plutonium and aluminum for planes. What country in WWII had a ridiculous amount of cheap electricity to get the job done?PurpleThrobber said:YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
The PNW should give thanks to FDR daily. Without him, this area is half New Mexico and half Maine.YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
And the Boys in the Boat have no summer jobs and would've dropped out of school. But instead built dams and fucked hookers in Coulee City.
Trump needs to drop another MOAB and schedule a rally at a random American school...say this one. -
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.Intersectional_Dawg said:
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the WehrmachtIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen. -
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.Intersectional_Dawg said:
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.Intersectional_Dawg said:
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the WehrmachtIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen. -
Is that a call for genocide?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.Intersectional_Dawg said:
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.Intersectional_Dawg said:
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the WehrmachtIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen.
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Score one for the geezer here. Probably FDR's greatest achievement was to keep the political spectrum in the US narrow at a time when other industrial democracies were grappling with, at times, outright conflict between socialists/communists and fascists. Here, those parties were present but kept to fringe status, which is good, because those parties in other countries were the ones to advocate throwing out their existing constitutions and try something new.RaceBannon said:
People who weren't there like I was don't always understand the pressure on capitalism after the stock market crash. Makes 2008 seem like a walk in the park with pseudo wall street occupiers checking their cell phones.YellowSnow said:
Someone had to break the seal on the socialism thing; it was inevitable. Why not a rich guy cripple to break the bad news to his friends?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree on Wilson.YellowSnow said:
Fear not, the D's will soon disown Wilson and FDR like they did Jefferson and Jackson. Tump is not Hitler, he's Jackson (or so the popular narrative goes).RaceBannon said:
Not to mention Americans who were opposed to the war or who didn't ration and ended up in jail.YellowSnow said:
Only 2,048 German Americans were actually interned in WWI vs 110,000 Japanese American in WWII. But still.RaceBannon said:Another thing Wilson did was internment camps before FDR made them cool
But Wilson and FDR were good guys with a D next to their name. Trump is Hitler
All kidding aside, Wilson was a POS POTUS; FDR, while not successful in all of his policies, still deserves to be considered a great POTUS.
FDR established the Entitlement Era though. He should be dinged for that.
There was real pressure on the US Government. There were a lot of unemployed men with nothing better to do than to cause trouble. A lot of what FDR did was good and needed but the consequence was of course, that once unleashed government will never get smaller, it will only continue to get bigger -
PurpleThrobber said:
Is that a call for genocide?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Agree. The Common Good must be enforced at all costs.Intersectional_Dawg said:
The Soviets always were better fighters than the Tsarists.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People also forget the Japanese kicked their chinebriated asses in 1905 too.Intersectional_Dawg said:
People forget that when America was dragging its heels getting into Western Europe, the Soviets were dragging their heels getting into the fight against the Japanese in Asia. People forget this.BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in by the WehrmachtIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen.
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BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in byIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen.the Wehrmachtthe Finns
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White Death FTWAZDuck said:BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in byIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen.the Wehrmachtthe Finns -
@Swaye! True?GrundleStiltzkin said:
White Death FTWAZDuck said:BearsWiin said:
Yeah, at a time when they weren't getting their shit pushed in byIntersectional_Dawg said:
Good thing the Soviets hammered the Japanese in eastern Siberia in 1939.BearsWiin said:
FDR's oil embargo on Japan, "mistakenly" enacted by Acheson while FDR was meeting with Churchill to discuss the Atlantic Charter, was meant to protect the USSR from Japan. The possibility that they would strike south (and against US forces in the Philippines) was a calculated risk, but at the very least they could not strike north like they had in 1939. FDR knew we* needed the USSR to do the heavy lifting on the continent, so they had to survive. That the Japanese attacked us* wasn't necessarily a surprise, but that they attacked Pearl Harbor was definitely a surprise.RaceBannon said:
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen.the Wehrmachtthe Finns -
If I'm Noth Korean I'm moving the fuck away from anything that looks like a nuclear lab or missle plant
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Eh. They can stay put.NeGgaPlEaSe said:If I'm Noth Korean I'm moving the fuck away from anything that looks like a nuclear lab or missle plant
