trumpcare is back

RaceBannon

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.

We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.

Rip me all you want but that fact isn't changing

You claim to have solved the preexisting condition issue through a magical and unsubstantiated combination of charity, endowment and tax dollars and then bemoan the substance of the counter-arguments? RaceBannonFS.

You have a separate insurance pool for pre existing conditions and supplement it with Medicaid, tax dollars, and you have a pool for those to choose the insurance they want either through their employer or themselves at a much lower rate than is required to cover everyone for everything, which is what is bringing Obamacare to its deserved death.

It eliminates the need for the mandate as well.

That is more than anyone has brought up here.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

Pre existing conditions clause has nothing to do with why Obamacare isn't doing as well as it should. First, you can't just sign up when you want. If you get cancer right now, you can't sign up until November when open enrollment begins. Second, prior to Obamacare, insurance companies could drop you if you got sick, that is bullshit. Third, the fix to Obamacare is to allow companies to have plans statewide, rather then silo them by county. That and a few other tweaks and it will be just fine.

7 years and none of these minor tweaks are anywhere to be seen and it is collapsing under its weight.

More bullshit like the bullshit when it was passed

dflea

doogie said:

why yes. Yes it is.

No. It isn't.

But go suck a cock and tell everyone it's the same as eating pussy.

doogie

Cirrhosis has no cure. You're walking dead.

So, why do you care?

Intersectional_Dawg

RaceBannon said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.

We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.

Rip me all you want but that fact isn't changing

You claim to have solved the preexisting condition issue through a magical and unsubstantiated combination of charity, endowment and tax dollars and then bemoan the substance of the counter-arguments? RaceBannonFS.

You have a separate insurance pool for pre existing conditions and supplement it with Medicaid, tax dollars, and you have a pool for those to choose the insurance they want either through their employer or themselves at a much lower rate than is required to cover everyone for everything, which is what is bringing Obamacare to its deserved death.

It eliminates the need for the mandate as well.

That is more than anyone has brought up here.

Rolling back the pre-existing conditions clause -- already a bullshit linguistic formulation -- has nothing to do with providing health care. It's pure Scroogian ideology.

2001400ex

RaceBannon said:

2001400ex said:

Pre existing conditions clause has nothing to do with why Obamacare isn't doing as well as it should. First, you can't just sign up when you want. If you get cancer right now, you can't sign up until November when open enrollment begins. Second, prior to Obamacare, insurance companies could drop you if you got sick, that is bullshit. Third, the fix to Obamacare is to allow companies to have plans statewide, rather then silo them by county. That and a few other tweaks and it will be just fine.

7 years and none of these minor tweaks are anywhere to be seen and it is collapsing under its weight.

More bullshit like the bullshit when it was passed

It's collapsing under its own weight just like you said it would crater the economy.

HTH

doogie

Why do you hate options and choices?

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.

We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.

Rip me all you want but that fact isn't changing

People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.

You clearly believe that hospitals are hoarding piles of cash that should be looted. So you're just as lefty as me or Hondo.

For you, it just seems to depend on whose ox is being gored. I don't necessarily agree that we should liquidate charitable endowments to provide care. That seems like the proverbial "eating the seed corn."

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.

We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.

Rip me all you want but that fact isn't changing

People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.

You clearly believe that hospitals are hoarding piles of cash that should be looted. So you're just as lefty as me or Hondo.

For you, it just seems to depend on whose ox is being gored. I don't necessarily agree that we should liquidate charitable endowments to provide care. That seems like the proverbial "eating the seed corn."

Hospitals have those endowments and charities for exactly the purpose I mention. They do it now, they did it before Obama care

doogie

Which brings up another point: since we've proven Government can run healthcare better than Hospital Foundations, why not just seize all the foundation money so everyone can enjoy unlimited healthcare.