trumpcare is back

DOA if it ever touches the senate floor
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Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
it's so bad that trump promised to keep it and it has 90% supportRaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
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That doesn't make it good. Its fucks up the whole deal. Has to go.dhdawg said:
it's so bad that trump promised to keep it and it has 90% supportRaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
Speaking of indigent patients, the last-resort Hospital for 60+ year old men who don't buy health insurance in Riverside County is the Regional Medical Center located at 26520RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
cactus Ave., Moreno Valley, CA 92555 (951-486-4000). You're welcome. -
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
As is thisCirrhosisDawg said:
Speaking of indigent patients, the last-resort Hospital for 60+ year old men who don't buy health insurance in Riverside County is the Regional Medical Center located at 26520RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
cactus Ave., Moreno Valley, CA 92555 (951-486-4000). You're welcome. -
Thanks! You want to talk about pre-existing condtions? Riverside RMC accepts them all without any of this pretense and bullshit about insurance1!1 How do they do it? They have this fantastic endowment / charity called Medi-Cal. I am sure you will be checking it out if you haven't already. You're welcome.RaceBannon said:
As is thisCirrhosisDawg said:
Speaking of indigent patients, the last-resort Hospital for 60+ year old men who don't buy health insurance in Riverside County is the Regional Medical Center located at 26520RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
cactus Ave., Moreno Valley, CA 92555 (951-486-4000). You're welcome. -
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
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Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
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You know what's better than a single charity? Having the entire society pay for each other's illnesses. Like schools, roads, water, santitation, military, etc.RaceBannon said:
Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
This won't be the solution to the Obama way, hth.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
I think we should cover preexisting conditions and just kill everyone over 65 to save the money to do it. Or kill them and seize all their assets - whichever.
When I'm 64, we should look for a different solution. -
You mean how I said taxpayers can cover the rest?Intersectional_Dawg said:I
You know what's better than a single charity? Having the entire society pay for each other's illnesses. Like schools, roads, water, santitation, military, etc.RaceBannon said:
Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
You don't need to fuck up everyone's insurance to get the indigent health care.
Like I said Obama tried that and it's fucking stupid -
Framing this as indigent vs everyone else is both factually as well as ethically wrong. This country's in trouble if your line becomes dominant.RaceBannon said:
You mean how I said taxpayers can cover the rest?Intersectional_Dawg said:I
You know what's better than a single charity? Having the entire society pay for each other's illnesses. Like schools, roads, water, santitation, military, etc.RaceBannon said:
Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
You don't need to fuck up everyone's insurance to get the indigent health care.
Like I said Obama tried that and it's fucking stupid -
You can get Urgent Care at Walgreens these days. FaceTime Doctors at Rite Aid. Access to healthcare for 97% of ailments is modernizing and almost instantaneous.
Days are ending when you can eat 10 pounds of Cheeze whiz Nachos and a gallon of soda pop every day, smoke a pack of camels with a fifth of vodka and demand State of the art care. -
It is completely factual. And it's ethical.Intersectional_Dawg said:
Framing this as indigent vs everyone else is both factually as well as ethically wrong. This country's in trouble if your line becomes dominant.RaceBannon said:
You mean how I said taxpayers can cover the rest?Intersectional_Dawg said:I
You know what's better than a single charity? Having the entire society pay for each other's illnesses. Like schools, roads, water, santitation, military, etc.RaceBannon said:
Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
You don't need to fuck up everyone's insurance to get the indigent health care.
Like I said Obama tried that and it's fucking stupid
Obamacare was sold on how many freeloaders signed up. At great expense to those who lost their doctor and insurance
You couldn't find a more fucking stupid way to do it.
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I thought we were moving on to tax reform.
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We've moved on from ocare. Keep up.RaceBannon said:
It is completely factual. And it's ethical.Intersectional_Dawg said:
Framing this as indigent vs everyone else is both factually as well as ethically wrong. This country's in trouble if your line becomes dominant.RaceBannon said:
You mean how I said taxpayers can cover the rest?Intersectional_Dawg said:I
You know what's better than a single charity? Having the entire society pay for each other's illnesses. Like schools, roads, water, santitation, military, etc.RaceBannon said:
Who said that?Intersectional_Dawg said:
About as good as telling diabetics and cancer sufferers to go fuck themselves.RaceBannon said:
That's a really well thought out counter argumentIntersectional_Dawg said:
You gotta be fucking kidding me. But then again, nothing about the conservative line surprises me anymore.RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
You don't need to fuck up everyone's insurance to get the indigent health care.
Like I said Obama tried that and it's fucking stupid
Obamacare was sold on how many freeloaders signed up. At great expense to those who lost their doctor and insurance
You couldn't find a more fucking stupid way to do it. -
You're such a fucking turd. obk brings more to the table.doogie said:You can get Urgent Care at Walgreens these days. FaceTime Doctors at Rite Aid. Access to healthcare for 97% of ailments is modernizing and almost instantaneous.
Days are ending when you can eat 10 pounds of Cheeze whiz Nachos and a gallon of soda pop every day, smoke a pack of camels with a fifth of vodka and demand State of the art care. -
I'm all for pre existing conditions. I like to wreck my car and then pay for collision coverage and not waste money on homeowners insurance until after my house burns down.
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Sure. Because that's the same thing.Alexis said:I'm all for pre existing conditions. I like to wreck my car and then pay for collision coverage and not waste money on homeowners insurance until after my house burns down.
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why yes. Yes it is.
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if "pre existing conditions" like fucking acne weren't abused by companies to avoid paying perfectly reasonable claims you'd have more of a point.Alexis said:I'm all for pre existing conditions. I like to wreck my car and then pay for collision coverage and not waste money on homeowners insurance until after my house burns down.
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@Foxnews, true?RaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed. -
I hate moronic motherfuckers.Alexis said:I'm all for pre existing conditions. I like to wreck my car and then pay for collision coverage and not waste money on homeowners insurance until after my house burns down.
Do you think people choose to get multiple sclerosis or Crohn's? Do you think that people who lose a genetic lottery should have to remain continuously employed (even though the losing the genetic lottery part might make that difficult) or pay COBRA rates for their insurance if they do lose their jobs?
Your analogy is less-than-dimwitted.
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EAT THE RICHRaceBannon said:Good. Pre existing conditions was bad law. It hurt everyone and didn't solve anything
This really will be Trump care now that Ryan has failed so miserably.
This one sounds like it has Rand Paul's fingerprints on it. Good round of golf.
People forget that hospitals have charities and endowments and pay for a lot of indigent patients. Tax payers can pay the rest and come out ahead.
We tried it the Obama way and it failed.
@RaceBannon , true?!?!!?!!12111!?! -
Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.
We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.
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You claim to have solved the preexisting condition issue through a magical and unsubstantiated combination of charity, endowment and tax dollars and then bemoan the substance of the counter-arguments? RaceBannonFS.RaceBannon said:Notice how the counter arguments have nothing to do with what I actually wrote. Because I'm right and all you have is the usual bull shit about how much you care about the poor even though we all know you don't. You just want to whip up your fellow low information voters into some frenzy over leaving people to die which is a bunch of bull shit and you know it.
We can deal with the minority of folks with pre existing conditions with out fucking over everyone else to do it which is what Obamacare did and why it is going to fail.
Rip me all you want but that fact isn't changing
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Pre existing conditions clause has nothing to do with why Obamacare isn't doing as well as it should. First, you can't just sign up when you want. If you get cancer right now, you can't sign up until November when open enrollment begins. Second, prior to Obamacare, insurance companies could drop you if you got sick, that is bullshit. Third, the fix to Obamacare is to allow companies to have plans statewide, rather then silo them by county. That and a few other tweaks and it will be just fine.