Lonzo Ball says 'I'm better than' fellow draft prospect Markelle Fultz
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Intersectional_Dawg said:PurpleThrobber said:
Lemon Party?Intersectional_Dawg said:
Kill your self.PurpleThrobber said:Intersectional_Dawg said:This thread has aids.
If you can't respect a good threadjack attempt, yoga pants and sidebars, you don't have this place as dialed in as you think you do.Intersectional_Dawg said:
Wrong thread, dipshit.PurpleThrobber said:
Again
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You have to sell in the NFL.dnc said:BTW, the Pats won two rings maybe three before they started "selling a year early". Boston isn't going to start selling a year early before they get to the top. You only do that when you're a) at the top and trying to sustain that for a long time or b) trying to rebuild, Boston isn't at the top, and they aren't trying to rebuild. They have plenty of future assets, they signed Horford this offseason because they want to win now.
IT isn't going anywhere.
In the NBA, not so much. -
Projecting 19 year olds into the NBA is a crapshoot. Being absolute on their future is foolish.
Fultz is a loser. Other famous losers- Michael Jordan, Lebron James. Good company.
Tequila makes a good case for trading IT. It's nice that you can make a case that they could make the Finals. It's also putting a lot of stock into the Cavs last 20 regular season games. It's also ignoring that a trip to the Finals would be followed by a quick sweep by Kevin Durant and dem boyz.
I'd rather have Smart and Bradley for 40 million a year for the next 5 than IT for 30+. Without IT they have no go to scorer. But they also have Brooklyns next 2 picks and free agency. With IT they can't get stops and can't solve that problem. I'll take a worse team with a solvable problem than a better team that will never win the championship and an unsolvable problem.
And for gods sake, Ball's shot isn't broken. Broken shots don't make 41% of their 3s on 5 attempts per game. His mechanics are just janky. He might not be able to get his shot up 1 on 1 but you'd still have to play up on him, you couldn't Rondo him and play 5 feet off him because that would give him the time to get it up. His weird mechanics won't allow defenses to cheat off him and that's when it becomes a problem. -
Ball will be a marginal player in the league. He shoots low and like a retarded kid and won't be able to get inside and do anything at the next level. He can handle when He wants to and is a great passer.
But He'll be out of the league in 5 years.
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Janky is a better word for it.allpurpleallgold said:Projecting 19 year olds into the NBA is a crapshoot. Being absolute on their future is foolish.
Fultz is a loser. Other famous losers- Michael Jordan, Lebron James. Good company.
Tequila makes a good case for trading IT. It's nice that you can make a case that they could make the Finals. It's also putting a lot of stock into the Cavs last 20 regular season games. It's also ignoring that a trip to the Finals would be followed by a quick sweep by Kevin Durant and dem boyz.
I'd rather have Smart and Bradley for 40 million a year for the next 5 than IT for 30+. Without IT they have no go to scorer. But they also have Brooklyns next 2 picks and free agency. With IT they can't get stops and can't solve that problem. I'll take a worse team with a solvable problem than a better team that will never win the championship and an unsolvable problem.
And for gods sake, Ball's shot isn't broken. Broken shots don't make 41% of their 3s on 5 attempts per game. His mechanics are just janky. He might not be able to get his shot up 1 on 1 but you'd still have to play up on him, you couldn't Rondo him and play 5 feet off him because that would give him the time to get it up. His weird mechanics won't allow defenses to cheat off him and that's when it becomes a problem.
As far as IT is concerned, I don't think they'll make the Finals, but if they do they'll get their ass kicked without question.
You make a good case for why they should move on from IT. I still don't think they will. We'll see. -
Queery,dnc said:
Hopefully he'll be putting numbers up for Boston. They've got like a 25% shot at getting him. Him and IT would be a fun combo.ThomasFremont said:
Will he put up numbers for a loser team? Sure.dnc said:
Not maybe. He can. And will.ThomasFremont said:
So he can MAYBE beat out the worst guy on the East team?dnc said:
Disagree if Fultz goes to the Eastern Conference as I expect. If he ends up in the west then I agree. But Kemba Walker was an eastern conference all star this year. Fultz can be better than Walker.ThomasFremont said:Neither makes an All-Star game more than maybe once or twice in their career.
Dude, they're both good role players. Probably starters since they'll be drafted by a shit team. But All-Stars? Nope.
If he goes to the Eastern Conference I'd take the over at 3.5 ASG's. Get all the screenshots you need.
He's going to score 22 a game with six or seven assists for a decade. He's probably not a superstar but he'll be a star rather easily, baring injury of course.
That's not the same as being recognized as one of the best in the game.
In the more likely event that doesn't happen, yeah he'll probably be putting up numbers on a shit team, at least for awhile. Like most top picks.
Whose pick does Boston have?
I thought Fultz was locked in as a top 5 pick? -
Boston has NJ's pick (or the right to swap with NJ I think). NJ is basically assured of the best lottery odds (25%). So Boston has the best shot at the #1 pick, but most likely will pick somewhere near the top just not #1.salemcoog said:
Queery,dnc said:
Hopefully he'll be putting numbers up for Boston. They've got like a 25% shot at getting him. Him and IT would be a fun combo.ThomasFremont said:
Will he put up numbers for a loser team? Sure.dnc said:
Not maybe. He can. And will.ThomasFremont said:
So he can MAYBE beat out the worst guy on the East team?dnc said:
Disagree if Fultz goes to the Eastern Conference as I expect. If he ends up in the west then I agree. But Kemba Walker was an eastern conference all star this year. Fultz can be better than Walker.ThomasFremont said:Neither makes an All-Star game more than maybe once or twice in their career.
Dude, they're both good role players. Probably starters since they'll be drafted by a shit team. But All-Stars? Nope.
If he goes to the Eastern Conference I'd take the over at 3.5 ASG's. Get all the screenshots you need.
He's going to score 22 a game with six or seven assists for a decade. He's probably not a superstar but he'll be a star rather easily, baring injury of course.
That's not the same as being recognized as one of the best in the game.
In the more likely event that doesn't happen, yeah he'll probably be putting up numbers on a shit team, at least for awhile. Like most top picks.
Whose pick does Boston have?
I thought Fultz was locked in as a top 5 pick? -
IT > Smart and Bradley.allpurpleallgold said:Projecting 19 year olds into the NBA is a crapshoot. Being absolute on their future is foolish.
Fultz is a loser. Other famous losers- Michael Jordan, Lebron James. Good company.
Tequila makes a good case for trading IT. It's nice that you can make a case that they could make the Finals. It's also putting a lot of stock into the Cavs last 20 regular season games. It's also ignoring that a trip to the Finals would be followed by a quick sweep by Kevin Durant and dem boyz.
I'd rather have Smart and Bradley for 40 million a year for the next 5 than IT for 30+. Without IT they have no go to scorer. But they also have Brooklyns next 2 picks and free agency. With IT they can't get stops and can't solve that problem. I'll take a worse team with a solvable problem than a better team that will never win the championship and an unsolvable problem.
And for gods sake, Ball's shot isn't broken. Broken shots don't make 41% of their 3s on 5 attempts per game. His mechanics are just janky. He might not be able to get his shot up 1 on 1 but you'd still have to play up on him, you couldn't Rondo him and play 5 feet off him because that would give him the time to get it up. His weird mechanics won't allow defenses to cheat off him and that's when it becomes a problem.
Not only is IT one of the best scorers in the league, Smart and Bradley don't even have a positive box plus/minus. They aren't bad but both have serious flaws to their games. Bradley is an undersized 2 with no off the dribble game. Smart can't shoot.
Isaiah is hardly the first shitty defender at PG. Kyrie Irving sucks, Curry is pretty bad, Westbrook mostly gambles and let's the opponent shoot, etc.
Draft whoever, keep Isaiah. When Isaiah's next contract runs out and Horford is gone, you hope that Fultz or whoever and Brown can be the nucleus for your next contender. -
WinnerRoadDawg55 said:
IT > Smart and Bradley.allpurpleallgold said:Projecting 19 year olds into the NBA is a crapshoot. Being absolute on their future is foolish.
Fultz is a loser. Other famous losers- Michael Jordan, Lebron James. Good company.
Tequila makes a good case for trading IT. It's nice that you can make a case that they could make the Finals. It's also putting a lot of stock into the Cavs last 20 regular season games. It's also ignoring that a trip to the Finals would be followed by a quick sweep by Kevin Durant and dem boyz.
I'd rather have Smart and Bradley for 40 million a year for the next 5 than IT for 30+. Without IT they have no go to scorer. But they also have Brooklyns next 2 picks and free agency. With IT they can't get stops and can't solve that problem. I'll take a worse team with a solvable problem than a better team that will never win the championship and an unsolvable problem.
And for gods sake, Ball's shot isn't broken. Broken shots don't make 41% of their 3s on 5 attempts per game. His mechanics are just janky. He might not be able to get his shot up 1 on 1 but you'd still have to play up on him, you couldn't Rondo him and play 5 feet off him because that would give him the time to get it up. His weird mechanics won't allow defenses to cheat off him and that's when it becomes a problem.
Not only is IT one of the best scorers in the league, Smart and Bradley don't even have a positive box plus/minus. They aren't bad but both have serious flaws to their games. Bradley is an undersized 2 with no off the dribble game. Smart can't shoot.
Isaiah is hardly the first shitty defender at PG. Kyrie Irving sucks, Curry is pretty bad, Westbrook mostly gambles and let's the opponent shoot, etc.
Draft whoever, keep Isaiah. When Isaiah's next contract runs out and Horford is gone, you hope that Fultz or whoever and Brown can be the nucleus for your next contender. -
Thanks in arrears. (faggy wink here)dnc said:
Boston has NJ's pick (or the right to swap with NJ I think). NJ is basically assured of the best lottery odds (25%). So Boston has the best shot at the #1 pick, but most likely will pick somewhere near the top just not #1.salemcoog said:
Queery,dnc said:
Hopefully he'll be putting numbers up for Boston. They've got like a 25% shot at getting him. Him and IT would be a fun combo.ThomasFremont said:
Will he put up numbers for a loser team? Sure.dnc said:
Not maybe. He can. And will.ThomasFremont said:
So he can MAYBE beat out the worst guy on the East team?dnc said:
Disagree if Fultz goes to the Eastern Conference as I expect. If he ends up in the west then I agree. But Kemba Walker was an eastern conference all star this year. Fultz can be better than Walker.ThomasFremont said:Neither makes an All-Star game more than maybe once or twice in their career.
Dude, they're both good role players. Probably starters since they'll be drafted by a shit team. But All-Stars? Nope.
If he goes to the Eastern Conference I'd take the over at 3.5 ASG's. Get all the screenshots you need.
He's going to score 22 a game with six or seven assists for a decade. He's probably not a superstar but he'll be a star rather easily, baring injury of course.
That's not the same as being recognized as one of the best in the game.
In the more likely event that doesn't happen, yeah he'll probably be putting up numbers on a shit team, at least for awhile. Like most top picks.
Whose pick does Boston have?
I thought Fultz was locked in as a top 5 pick?
