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  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    Teq, has Hopkins contacted you to walk on yet? I'm sure he knows about your IMA prowess by now.
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 6,002
    Man I wouldn't want to be Hop
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,584
    Everything will be OK. Dominican Green has announced he will turn down his opportunities at PLU and Western and will instead stay at UW
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter
    PurpleThrobber said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    pat_hm said:

    In an ideal transition you would be able to keep your high end commits and then build up from there. I don't know how often this happens during coaching changes but I would guess most of the time the parties part ways. That's seems like the most logical scenario given the relationships that have been built so getting upset about kids who are still in high school at this junction makes little sense to me.

    I think deeming Hop a failure for not keeping two guys who 1) he has known for less than a week and 2) held a clear allegiance to Romar NOT the University of Washington is alarmist. UW is not a college basketball brand. Romar was the brand.

    This is about a culture change. A rebranding of Washington basketball. It's about more than Davis and Nowell. The bandaid needed to pulled off and if that means missing out on a few guys that haven't even played a minute in college so be it. Honestly these kids who worship Romar don't fit the new mold for Mike Hopkins program and news flash: the world of basketball existes outside of Seattle.

    He's not a failure, but not keeping any of that talent is a failure. Stop trying to spin that as anything but. It won't determine his success here, but it will delay it.

    Petersen got Baker to stay home. And he managed to make it work with players that had been coached by Sark the retard. Not every guy that plays for a bad coach is a cancer that can't adapt and be successful under the new system.

    At this rate, Hopkins will be holding open tryouts at the IMA so he has enough guys to run a scrimmage. Maybe that's why he hired Dollar and Conroy to his staff.
    This I agree with 100%.

    I still think in the end he keeps at least one of the Garfield kids. If he doesn't, or doesn't get someone equivalent talent, that's certainly discouraging.
    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    I'm not saying WDWTA

    What I'm saying is that if we learned anything from the Sark to Pete transition it is that a culture change can take up to 2 full seasons ... we were slightly helped here in that there were a number of our top players that bought in pretty quickly because they saw Sark for what he was ...

    The problem with Romar is that so many think that he walked in water (insanely stupid) ... so I am not losing sleep by anybody leaving or not wanting to show up because they don't want to buy in ...

    We will have short-term problems next year from a depleted roster and TBD challenges from recruiting locally ... we may have some opportunities in having a large recruiting class in 2018 and/or 2019 full of people that buy into what we are selling

    Maybe Hop is a great recruiter (because everyone says so!), but his inability to close even one of the Garfield guys says it's just as likely he's not.
    Now is the time for Ernie Kent go Kendall Briles and pull out the hottest of the hot sororitutes in Pullberg. There's not much you can say about that place vs. Gonzaga but dem tittays are way, way better in Whitman County than Spokane County.

    In fact, he should just ride dem tittays to a complete roster makeover.

    PurpleThrobber said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    pat_hm said:

    In an ideal transition you would be able to keep your high end commits and then build up from there. I don't know how often this happens during coaching changes but I would guess most of the time the parties part ways. That's seems like the most logical scenario given the relationships that have been built so getting upset about kids who are still in high school at this junction makes little sense to me.

    I think deeming Hop a failure for not keeping two guys who 1) he has known for less than a week and 2) held a clear allegiance to Romar NOT the University of Washington is alarmist. UW is not a college basketball brand. Romar was the brand.

    This is about a culture change. A rebranding of Washington basketball. It's about more than Davis and Nowell. The bandaid needed to pulled off and if that means missing out on a few guys that haven't even played a minute in college so be it. Honestly these kids who worship Romar don't fit the new mold for Mike Hopkins program and news flash: the world of basketball existes outside of Seattle.

    He's not a failure, but not keeping any of that talent is a failure. Stop trying to spin that as anything but. It won't determine his success here, but it will delay it.

    Petersen got Baker to stay home. And he managed to make it work with players that had been coached by Sark the retard. Not every guy that plays for a bad coach is a cancer that can't adapt and be successful under the new system.

    At this rate, Hopkins will be holding open tryouts at the IMA so he has enough guys to run a scrimmage. Maybe that's why he hired Dollar and Conroy to his staff.
    This I agree with 100%.

    I still think in the end he keeps at least one of the Garfield kids. If he doesn't, or doesn't get someone equivalent talent, that's certainly discouraging.
    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    I'm not saying WDWTA

    What I'm saying is that if we learned anything from the Sark to Pete transition it is that a culture change can take up to 2 full seasons ... we were slightly helped here in that there were a number of our top players that bought in pretty quickly because they saw Sark for what he was ...

    The problem with Romar is that so many think that he walked in water (insanely stupid) ... so I am not losing sleep by anybody leaving or not wanting to show up because they don't want to buy in ...

    We will have short-term problems next year from a depleted roster and TBD challenges from recruiting locally ... we may have some opportunities in having a large recruiting class in 2018 and/or 2019 full of people that buy into what we are selling

    Maybe Hop is a great recruiter (because everyone says so!), but his inability to close even one of the Garfield guys says it's just as likely he's not.
    Now is the time for Ernie Kent go Kendall Briles and pull out the hottest of the hot sororitutes in Pullberg. There's not much you can say about that place vs. Gonzaga but dem tittays are way, way better in Whitman County than Spokane County.

    In fact, he should just ride dem tittays to a complete roster makeover.

    Two of Ernie's assistants were asked to sell their couch today. Dem Tittays recruiting is on.

    Ernie, toss in a couple shots of tequila and those sororitutes will close. OLE, hombre!

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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RoadDawg55 said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Everything will be OK. Dominican Green has announced he will turn down his opportunities at PLU and Western and will instead stay at UW

    This is how you know the program is a total dreckfest. Hop is allowing Green to stay because there aren't other options at this point.
    There were other options, but he failed to close any of them.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    DeepSeaZ said:

    Teq, has Hopkins contacted you to walk on yet? I'm sure he knows about your IMA prowess by now.

    I'll be the first to admit that I never had the athletic ability to be a D1 P5 caliber of player ... my ceiling I got all broke right would have been D2 or D3 ... maybe real low D1
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Man I wouldn't want to be Hop

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Man I wouldn't want to be Hop

    I'll take $1.8M per.
    and don't forget, ZERO expectations to be remotely competitive for years. Great gig

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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 6,002
    doogie said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Man I wouldn't want to be Hop

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Man I wouldn't want to be Hop

    I'll take $1.8M per.
    and don't forget, ZERO expectations to be remotely competitive for years. Great gig

    Because failing at your first head coaching gig always leads to a second head coaching job?
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