Its Tony Bennett
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Dude guarantee he's turned down $4 million offers from multiple schools. He's waiting on a monster elite job for $5 or $6 million a year and the only way he's taking anything short of a top 10 program is to spend beyond that. $4 million from a shit basketball school like Washington doesn't even get him to answer his phoneTequilla said:Do we know that it would have taken $7M to get Marshall? That seems like a little hyperbole.
We knew that he is making $3.3M at Wichita State ... if we could have gotten the deal done in the $4M to $4.5M range then that was the hire ...
I think we'd have to be naïve to think that Cohen didn't at least kick the tires on Marshall ... if you believe the $2M to $3M range that was being thrown out by the media then I think they would have gotten to $4M for the right candidate. Problem is if they say that then they may as well publicly say who they are targeting because it's such a small group of coaches that could fall in that range. I'm still not convinced that Marshall won't take one of the open jobs ... I could see T Boone throwing some big money to get him to head a couple of hours south to Okie Lite.
What I was pretty adamant about regarding Marshall was making him an offer that he couldn't refuse ... obviously we have our boundaries on that ... but if you are pursuing him you have to know what it takes to sit at the table ($4M minimum).
What's likely realistic is that Cohen kicked the tires on the guys that we would have wanted and found out that she was going to have to pay a premium to get an elite guy (plus pay a buyout) with no guarantee that that coach would stay for the long haul (outside of Marshall because of his wife's ties) and decided from a budget standpoint they'd be better off allocating those resources into the assistant coaching pool and likely towards the build out of the men's practice facilities that have been talked about.
For as much as she talked about wanting to get the right coach and the championship commitment that she wanted the hire basically proves that in the end the hire was a budget hire and she probably got as good as she could get given those boundaries. -
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier. -
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As far as Bennett is concerned, I think both camps are correct.Gladstone said:I love this thread!
Tony Tone Toni is a very good coach with a good shot at being great. He'll break through and get a F4. Probably multiple. He'd have been a great hire who would have taken us far.
His style is also MickeyGougingOutEyes.gif to watch.
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But Marshall's wife is from Washington and Saban played and coached under Don James. And Spurrier was spotted at Sea-Tac once.dnc said:
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier. -
Definitely not confirmation bias ...dnc said:
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier.
I'm a huge fan of Marshall the coach but for all the reasons that have been mentioned there's always been a reason to not think a high caliber hire was realistic ...
Then Cohen had her presser and I sent a text to a buddy of mine asking thoughts on her comments and the response was "sounds like she was describing Marshall" ... which was the same takeaway that I had. Cohen's words led me in that direction ...
On top of that, you had a report of a leading booster saying Marshall was the target as well as supposedly a reported budget range of the hire in the $2M to $3M range (which I've hypothesized that they wouldn't publicly say more if available because of what it would signal) ...
We still have no clue what the contractual terms for Hopkins are ... my guess is somewhere around $1.5M per year given that Boeheim makes about $2.1M per year at last report. -
So your buddy is also retarded?Tequilla said:
Definitely not confirmation bias ...dnc said:
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier.
I'm a huge fan of Marshall the coach but for all the reasons that have been mentioned there's always been a reason to not think a high caliber hire was realistic ...
Then Cohen had her presser and I sent a text to a buddy of mine asking thoughts on her comments and the response was "sounds like she was describing Marshall" ... which was the same takeaway that I had. Cohen's words led me in that direction ...
On top of that, you had a report of a leading booster saying Marshall was the target as well as supposedly a reported budget range of the hire in the $2M to $3M range (which I've hypothesized that they wouldn't publicly say more if available because of what it would signal) ...
We still have no clue what the contractual terms for Hopkins are ... my guess is somewhere around $1.5M per year given that Boeheim makes about $2.1M per year at last report. -
No, your doogishness led you in that direction.Tequilla said:
Cohen's words led me in that direction ...dnc said:
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier. -
I would guess he's gonna make $2.2 because it's the Washington way to overpay but how much Hopkins is getting is inconsequential. I agree they would have gone past $3 million for Marshall. There's no way in hell they would have gone past $4 million because you're not paying a basketball coach more than Pete, and i'm not sure they could have gotten to $4. I am sure $4million doesn't get you an interview with Marshall let alone a contract.Tequilla said:
Definitely not confirmation bias ...dnc said:
You heard what you wanted to hear. Classic confirmation bias, yadda yadda yadda.Tequilla said:
And I stand by every single world of that ...dnc said:Listening to what she was describing today during the press conference today, it screamed Marshall to me ...
I get all the reasons why Marshall shouldn't be in play ...
But from what I've gathered of how Cohen operates, she puts the pieces on the table with an offer that makes it difficult to impossible to say no ... and if she gets resistance she doesn't just take it and leave she finds a way to make it difficult to say no in the end.
If you buy the above, then I'd say that I'd say Marshall is as likely as the field.
Cohen was vocal during the press conference about making the hoops program championship caliber and giving it the resources needed to do that ...
She may have hired someone that she thought had a pedigree to be able to build a championship caliber program in time ... but she's betting on the come on this and not paying for a sure thing.
Did she kick the tires? Sure, why not. When his agent hung up the phone at her $3 million starting poont she moved on. There's just no way we? were ever going to pay what it would have taken to get him. Anyone paying attention knew this before we ever fired Romar.
Just like Saban and Spurrier.
I'm a huge fan of Marshall the coach but for all the reasons that have been mentioned there's always been a reason to not think a high caliber hire was realistic ...
Then Cohen had her presser and I sent a text to a buddy of mine asking thoughts on her comments and the response was "sounds like she was describing Marshall" ... which was the same takeaway that I had. Cohen's words led me in that direction ...
On top of that, you had a report of a leading booster saying Marshall was the target as well as supposedly a reported budget range of the hire in the $2M to $3M range (which I've hypothesized that they wouldn't publicly say more if available because of what it would signal) ...
We still have no clue what the contractual terms for Hopkins are ... my guess is somewhere around $1.5M per year given that Boeheim makes about $2.1M per year at last report. -
whoosh bro, come on.RoadDawg55 said:
No he didn't. Rick Neuheisel is no Coach K or Pitino either.ThomasFremont said:
Ty Willingham won a Rose Bowl once!!1!RoadDawg55 said:
Jay Wright was a known tournament choker until last year. A coach who has won league titles against coach K, Pitino, Roy Williams is a good hire. You can nitpick, but that's a sign of a very good coach.ThomasFremont said:Do you guys want to just get back to the tournament or build an actual contender?
Bennett offers the former, but not the latter.
I mean Jesus, this is like Sark limping into the Holiday Bowl being cheered like a Rose Bowl just because we hadn't been to any bowl in a while.
Good is the enemy of great. Bennett is good, but not great.
I'd take him over some assistant with no HC experience, or some retread like Steve Lavin. No doubt.
But Marshall is still out there. Make him an offer he can't refuse.
I want to get to the tournament every year or at least every 4 out of 5. Bennett can accomplish that.
Anything about style of play is some straight Sark sizzle bullshit. I like winning. Bennett wins. He won at WSU and he won at Virginia. I would rather have Marshall, but Bennett would be a good hire.
