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GOP Plan Orders Insurers to Charge People 30% More If Uninsured for 63 Days

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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    he needs more time. 7 years was not enough
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    dhdawg said:

    he needs more time. 7 years was not enough

    Wait until he gets his guys in there.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    You mean the guy that looks 35 isn't doing a good job with his third of the power?

    Shocking...
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,591
    Obama care is going to be tricky for the GOP to fight because it is, in essence, a Republican plan - it's Romney's health care plan. Obama wanted single payer but new hr couldnt fet it through congress so he crafted the plan after the best republican plan out there. The GOP will not be able to "tweak a few things" and come up with a better plan. The next health care act in America will be extreme, either single-payer or completely free market and it probably won't come g or awhile.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Obama care is going to be tricky for the GOP to fight because it is, in essence, a Republican plan - it's Romney's health care plan. Obama wanted single payer but new hr couldnt fet it through congress so he crafted the plan after the best republican plan out there. The GOP will not be able to "tweak a few things" and come up with a better plan. The next health care act in America will be extreme, either single-payer or completely free market and it probably won't come g or awhile.

    at first I didn't buy into the "Obamacare was supposed to fail leading to single payer" but now I sort of see some of the genius in it.

    you dedicate an entire provision to preventing companies from denying people for pre-existing conditions. Republicans know they can't get rid of that and stay in office. But you can't keep that provision without many of the other aspects. that is along with lifetime caps, etc.

    what I think the GOP will try to do is do nothing and gut the bill, let it collapse, and then use that as proof that "socialized medicine" doesn't work.

    problem is they ran on replacing it, and their president ran on "cheaper insurance for everyone." So they're in a corner.

    All that you need now is a democratic presidential candidate that can frame it correctly in 2020. not Hillary who's against it because she's bought off
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    It comes down to conflicting ideas. Is good healthcare a privilege or a right?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It comes down to conflicting ideas. Is good healthcare a privilege or a right?

    My health care shouldn't be determined with a profit motive.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,800 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    It comes down to conflicting ideas. Is good healthcare a privilege or a right?

    My health care shouldn't be determined with a profit motive.
    Agree, but how do you inspire individuals to pursue expertise in medicine and spend a decade plus of their life going into six fig debt without paying them accordingly.

    It's a tricky fucking problem no doubt.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    2001400ex said:

    It comes down to conflicting ideas. Is good healthcare a privilege or a right?

    My health care shouldn't be determined with a profit motive.
    Profit drives R&D. Without that, good luck developing new drugs and procedures.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Doogles said:

    2001400ex said:

    It comes down to conflicting ideas. Is good healthcare a privilege or a right?

    My health care shouldn't be determined with a profit motive.
    Agree, but how do you inspire individuals to pursue expertise in medicine and spend a decade plus of their life going into six fig debt without paying them accordingly.

    It's a tricky fucking problem no doubt.
    I'm not talking doctors or pharmacists. I'm talking the person paying the bill trying to tell me what procedure to get. That should be between me and the doctor, who should get paid for ensuring I have the right medical care.