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All Time Historical Existential Threats to US Power Rankings
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Good book, by the wayYellowSnow said:
Whitey had too much Guns, Germs and Steel. Some burnt wagons and cabins but no existential threat.Pitchfork51 said:Swaye vs whitey
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Too soon. Dick.Southerndawg said:
Good book, by the wayYellowSnow said:
Whitey had too much Guns, Germs and Steel. Some burnt wagons and cabins but no existential threat.Pitchfork51 said:Swaye vs whitey
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That's why I love this place, there are people in here who have actually read Guns, Germs, and Steel: The fate of Human Societies .... or maybe simply watched the NG series. Either way, cool beans.Swaye said:
Too soon. Dick.Southerndawg said:
Good book, by the wayYellowSnow said:
Whitey had too much Guns, Germs and Steel. Some burnt wagons and cabins but no existential threat.Pitchfork51 said:Swaye vs whitey
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1. The unchecked power of SCOTUS
2. The two party system
3. The American voter
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Actually, Gun, Germs, and Steel sticks up for injuns and points out that it wasn't that the white man was more bad ass, but rather just random accidents of history. In this case, it was mostly the germs part.Swaye said:
Too soon. Dick.Southerndawg said:
Good book, by the wayYellowSnow said:
Whitey had too much Guns, Germs and Steel. Some burnt wagons and cabins but no existential threat.Pitchfork51 said:Swaye vs whitey
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Depends upon which British Empire you're talking about. The one I reference - i.e., that during the Revolutionary War and War of 1812 - was a lot smaller than the "Sun Never Sets Up It" British Empire which didn't really get going until the mid to later 1800's. By that point the only real threat that version of the Empire posed to us was getting the in way of our Manifest Destiny (we should have taken British Columbia) and they were considering recognizing the CSA which would have been bad.ThomasFremont said:
The largest empire in human history too high?RaceBannon said:Great Britain too high. They could have won but they would have faced the same kind of price at home that we would face today if we killed all our cousins if we had cousins in a country giving us shit and dumping our tea.
1 Soviets - they had nukes
2. Nazis - they had desire
3. Japan - fuckers were crazy
4. China today
5. Iran today
Fuck the rest
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Depends on how you define "un-defeated" against "us". We really only have fought the Canucks once and that was in the War of 1812 when they were still part of GB. That one was basically a draw, although we won in overtime- i.e., Andrew Jackson at Battle of New Orleans after the peace treaty had already been signed.PurpleThrobber said:I'm gonna go ahead and rank Canada as #1 threat.
Those fuckers are undefeated against us all-time. God forbid if they ever get serious about dropping Tim Hortons franchises here. We are fucked against such deliciousness. -
The British only slaughtered their colored colonies and even at that they lost them
Worst case we end up a commonwealth. More likely we keep trying until we won.
The wild card is Canada. People forget they are 1 and 0 against us -
Didn't see that @YellowSnow debunked my Canada crack
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Less random acts of history, more luck in geography and associated advantages. More productive agriculture, availability of livestock for herding and as beasts of burden, exposure to germs from livestock that strengthened the population through natural selection and allowed for a deadly disease conduit from Eurasia to the Americas and elsewhere, more free time to develop technology due to advantages in agriculture and livestock, etc, etc. He does essentially dismiss potential cultural influences, which IMO explain why peoples with the same "geographic" advantages advance at different rates and why some started strong and stalled along the way, but all in all a good read.YellowSnow said:
Actually, Gun, Germs, and Steel sticks up for injuns and points out that it wasn't that the white man was more bad ass, but rather just random accidents of history. In this case, it was mostly the germs part.Swaye said:
Too soon. Dick.Southerndawg said:
Good book, by the wayYellowSnow said:
Whitey had too much Guns, Germs and Steel. Some burnt wagons and cabins but no existential threat.Pitchfork51 said:Swaye vs whitey




