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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    In the article you were too afraid to read - same shit different country

    Remember the withdrawal of Obama's pick for National Intelligence Council chairman, Charles Freeman, in March 2009? Obama had tapped the former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia for the sensitive post despite abundant conflicts of interests. Freeman had served for four years on the board of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation, a company owned by the Chinese communist government. The state-owned firm has invested in Sudan and Iran. Freeman also led the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington, D.C.-based group funded by the Saudi government. And he chaired Projects International, a consulting firm that had worked with foreign companies and governments.

    Obama knew all that and looked the other way at Freeman's role as a de facto lobbyist for Saudi royalty. Even worse, he ignored Freeman's Jew-bashing and tyrant-coddling record with a Blame America axe to grind. Freeman carped that our country exhibited "an ugly mood of chauvinism" after the 9/11 attacks and condemned his fellow countrymen for connecting the dots of Islam and Saudi-funded jihad: "Before Americans call on others to examine themselves," he fumed with Jeremiah Wright-style bombast, "we should examine ourselves."


    It was well known that Obama pals around with terrorists.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    You seem upset
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    The media hates Trump. Trump hates the media. Only a serious partisan would deny either of those facts.

    And so it goes.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    The media hates Trump. Trump hates the media. Only a serious partisan would deny either of those facts.

    And so it goes.
    Is Fox news, newsmax, etc not part of the media anymore?
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    The media hates Trump. Trump hates the media. Only a serious partisan would deny either of those facts.

    And so it goes.
    The media loves Trump; the ratings boom are yuge.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    You seem upset
    Why?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    In this thread we find out that Baabs hates facts.

    We also find out that the rest of the gang lack the critical thinking skills of a baboon.

    It is all in how the message from the media is framed and what is left out to make the president look good or bad.

    For a bunch of self proclaimed smart guys you seem kind of dim

    The media is out to get Trump (and the right in general).

    Worn out and not true. But the butthurt snowflakes of the right insist it's true so all the mouth breathers follow along. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    The media hates Trump. Trump hates the media. Only a serious partisan would deny either of those facts.

    And so it goes.
    Is Fox news, newsmax, etc not part of the media anymore?
    Hayseus. The media at large hates Trump. There are pockets of right wing media that no one takes seriously that sniff Trump's panties. But as a whole, the media is massively anti Trump.

    Hth but I know it won't.
    Yes, some hate Trump. Others report factually on what he says and he has a meltdown like a spoiled little girl.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    WaPo and Univ of Indiana are your source?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Looks like the Democrats win this one rather easily, say 28-7.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    You look at things like the coverage of Kaepernick versus Curt Schilling. One is courageous and one is a douchebag as presented.

    People here may have different views on which is which. You won't find much diversity of thought on that amongst journalists.

    Dan LeBatard who tends to bat from the left side of the plate is a notable exception. He called out one of his guys who said someone was courageous for bashing Trump and said the courage today would be in supporting Trump.

    #Courage

    Isn't LeBatard a radio talk show host? Is that considered a journalist? Rush/Softy are journalists?

    image
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    You look at things like the coverage of Kaepernick versus Curt Schilling. One is courageous and one is a douchebag as presented.

    People here may have different views on which is which. You won't find much diversity of thought on that amongst journalists.

    Dan LeBatard who tends to bat from the left side of the plate is a notable exception. He called out one of his guys who said someone was courageous for bashing Trump and said the courage today would be in supporting Trump.

    #Courage

    Isn't LeBatard a radio talk show host? Is that considered a journalist? Rush/Softy are journalists?

    image
    Why?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    You look at things like the coverage of Kaepernick versus Curt Schilling. One is courageous and one is a douchebag as presented.

    People here may have different views on which is which. You won't find much diversity of thought on that amongst journalists.

    Dan LeBatard who tends to bat from the left side of the plate is a notable exception. He called out one of his guys who said someone was courageous for bashing Trump and said the courage today would be in supporting Trump.

    #Courage

    Isn't LeBatard a radio talk show host? Is that considered a journalist? Rush/Softy are journalists?

    image
    Why?
    Answer the fucking questions?!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    You look at things like the coverage of Kaepernick versus Curt Schilling. One is courageous and one is a douchebag as presented.

    People here may have different views on which is which. You won't find much diversity of thought on that amongst journalists.

    Dan LeBatard who tends to bat from the left side of the plate is a notable exception. He called out one of his guys who said someone was courageous for bashing Trump and said the courage today would be in supporting Trump.

    #Courage

    Isn't LeBatard a radio talk show host? Is that considered a journalist? Rush/Softy are journalists?

    image
    Why?
    Answer the fucking questions?!
    Why?

    I mixed it up a bit but in my defense, sports talk and ESPN is where the social justice athlete is discussed the most
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    TV news is panels of print journalists pontificating on how insane, stupid, and alarming Trump is
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    TV news is panels of print journalists pontificating on how insane, stupid, and alarming Trump is

    Huh?

    thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/16/as-trump-raves-his-republican-enablers-face-a-moment-of-truth.html
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    TV news is panels of print journalists pontificating on how insane, stupid, and alarming Trump is

    Sean Hannity disagrees with you. He thinks a journalist us help to a higher standard than he is.

    FS
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Maybe you're right but I doubt it. I live in Memphissippi and the local TV and radio are both completely liberal.

    I'd be interested in seeing some data.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Now you're conflating all sorts of shit.

    J-schools produce graduates who are flung out to the hinterlands to find jobs. These are not 5th generation farmers tied to hearth & home. Locality is not important.

    Endorsements are made by an editorial board, a relatively small part of a total newsroom, and often including management/ownership.

    Your common sense may say affiliation is similar to country at large. The survey says it does not match.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Now you're conflating all sorts of shit.

    J-schools produce graduates who are flung out to the hinterlands to find jobs. These are not 5th generation farmers tied to hearth & home. Locality is not important.

    Endorsements are made by an editorial board, a relatively small part of a total newsroom, and often including management/ownership.

    Your common sense may say affiliation is similar to country at large. The survey says it does not match.
    The media speaks to their audience. Just like when I was in Charlotte last fall, the Sunday morning CBS channel before football was a Catholic sermon. You'd never see that in a liberal town.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Now you're conflating all sorts of shit.

    J-schools produce graduates who are flung out to the hinterlands to find jobs. These are not 5th generation farmers tied to hearth & home. Locality is not important.

    Endorsements are made by an editorial board, a relatively small part of a total newsroom, and often including management/ownership.

    Your common sense may say affiliation is similar to country at large. The survey says it does not match.
    The media speaks to their audience. Just like when I was in Charlotte last fall, the Sunday morning CBS channel before football was a Catholic sermon. You'd never see that in a liberal town.
    More conflation. The sermon was media programming, zero to do with journalism. The survey was regarding journalists.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Now you're conflating all sorts of shit.

    J-schools produce graduates who are flung out to the hinterlands to find jobs. These are not 5th generation farmers tied to hearth & home. Locality is not important.

    Endorsements are made by an editorial board, a relatively small part of a total newsroom, and often including management/ownership.

    Your common sense may say affiliation is similar to country at large. The survey says it does not match.
    The media speaks to their audience. Just like when I was in Charlotte last fall, the Sunday morning CBS channel before football was a Catholic sermon. You'd never see that in a liberal town.
    More conflation. The sermon was media programming, zero to do with journalism. The survey was regarding journalists.
    Do you think the news channels speak to their audience for regular programming. But not for their news segments?

    Yes and I'm saying that surveying journalists is dumb. There's so much more media out there were people get their news from.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Of course the media hates trump just like he hates them.
    The lie is that the media hates the right

    Media, that is debatable. Journalists on other hand...
    image
    Why do you hate TV and radio media? Does anyone read a newspaper anymore?
    Produce the numbers that show it's any different. I'd be surprised if TV is much different, it's sure as hell not for the TV I watch. Radio you probably have a point.
    OK, local TV news. 80% or whatever of the square area of the country is Republican, right? Do you think local news people are Democrat in Nebraska? Same with local newspapers if you want to go there. How many were dug up that hadn't supported a Democrat in more than 40 plus years? One went back to the 1800s or some shit.

    Just common sense says the media is probably pretty similar to the rest of the country. And I laff that 50.2% say they are independent. That's BS too, most people have a bias one way or the other. That's a product of people wanting the perception they are independent now days.
    Now you're conflating all sorts of shit.

    J-schools produce graduates who are flung out to the hinterlands to find jobs. These are not 5th generation farmers tied to hearth & home. Locality is not important.

    Endorsements are made by an editorial board, a relatively small part of a total newsroom, and often including management/ownership.

    Your common sense may say affiliation is similar to country at large. The survey says it does not match.
    The media speaks to their audience. Just like when I was in Charlotte last fall, the Sunday morning CBS channel before football was a Catholic sermon. You'd never see that in a liberal town.
    Catholics don't tend to be that conservative.