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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    A good RB behind a great line is an all-conference caliber RB ...

    When you get a great RB behind a great OL that's when you're able to dictate at all levels.

    But generally speaking, elite teams take away the running game first and foremost. With the way football is played today, you are looking at needing to have elite pass catchers to be difference makers.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    A good RB behind a great line is an all-conference caliber RB ...

    When you get a great RB behind a great OL that's when you're able to dictate at all levels.

    But generally speaking, elite teams take away the running game first and foremost. With the way football is played today, you are looking at needing to have elite pass catchers to be difference makers.

    Right. I think the line is more important overall to the running game than the RB is. That's not to say RB's are a dime a dozen - a great one is a huge weapon. I just think it's easier for us to acquire good/great RB's than it is good/great WR's. Although Bush doesn't seem to care about degree of difficulty.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    dnc said:

    I love the list but I would swap #4 and #5. An all-galaxy CB is immensely valuable

    Agreed. RB is definitely too high.

    I know I'll be way in the minority on this but I'd probably take an elite WR over an elite RB quite honestly, especially given how rare it is for a an elite WR to come out of the state of Washington compared to an elite RB. We? produce RB's much better than WR's.
    We definitely produce more high3/4* RBs, but when was the last time we had a truly elite RB out of HS in the state of Washington? As far as pass-catchers go We've had Kasen Williams, Reggie Williams, Kavario Middleton, Austin Sefarian-Jenkins, etc.

    I mean, obviously Jonathan Stewart came from Washington, but I can't recall as many RBs as WRs.
    Jesus Christ you are truly one of the most clueless TBSers I've ever encountered and you won't fucking shut up.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223

    dnc said:

    I love the list but I would swap #4 and #5. An all-galaxy CB is immensely valuable

    Agreed. RB is definitely too high.

    I know I'll be way in the minority on this but I'd probably take an elite WR over an elite RB quite honestly, especially given how rare it is for a an elite WR to come out of the state of Washington compared to an elite RB. We? produce RB's much better than WR's.
    We definitely produce more high3/4* RBs, but when was the last time we had a truly elite RB out of HS in the state of Washington? As far as pass-catchers go We've had Kasen Williams, Reggie Williams, Kavario Middleton, Austin Sefarian-Jenkins, etc.

    I mean, obviously Jonathan Stewart came from Washington, but I can't recall as many RBs as WRs.
    Jesus Christ you are truly one of the most clueless TBSers I've ever encountered and you won't fucking shut up.
    Why do you hate people that try hard?

    I'm thinking MouseBacon is the Cort Dennison of Hardcore Husky posters
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    dnc said:

    I love the list but I would swap #4 and #5. An all-galaxy CB is immensely valuable

    Agreed. RB is definitely too high.

    I know I'll be way in the minority on this but I'd probably take an elite WR over an elite RB quite honestly, especially given how rare it is for a an elite WR to come out of the state of Washington compared to an elite RB. We? produce RB's much better than WR's.
    Hmmmm... so serious question, who would you rather have on your team, Corey Dillon or Desmond Trufant?

    I would go with Dillon 10/10. And I love Desmond Trufant.

    And Corey was picked in the second round.

    When you have an elite player at TB he sees the ball 30 times/game (or, in our offense, 12-18) and that sort of production really matters.

    If you have an elite CB he only prevents like 6 out of 8 receptions for the opposing WR.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited February 2017

    dnc said:

    I love the list but I would swap #4 and #5. An all-galaxy CB is immensely valuable

    Agreed. RB is definitely too high.

    I know I'll be way in the minority on this but I'd probably take an elite WR over an elite RB quite honestly, especially given how rare it is for a an elite WR to come out of the state of Washington compared to an elite RB. We? produce RB's much better than WR's.
    Hmmmm... so serious question, who would you rather have on your team, Corey Dillon or Desmond Trufant?

    I would go with Dillon 10/10. And I love Desmond Trufant.

    And Corey was picked in the second round.

    When you have an elite player at TB he sees the ball 30 times/game (or, in our offense, 12-18) and that sort of production really matters.

    If you have an elite CB he only prevents like 6 out of 8 receptions for the opposing WR.
    Unfair question because I am totally gay for Corey Dillon. IIRC he was only a second rounder because of off the field concerns, he was clearly an all world talent.

    Give me four years of Corey Dillon over any CB who ever played at UW. But I'll take three years of Sidney Jones over every other RB we've had in my lifetime. Same for Marcus Peters.

    BTW, no RB sees the ball 30 times a game anymore. Those days are long gone.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    We produce everything randomly outside of QBs, TEs and OLs because we have no black population.

    I've said it a million times, if you guys really care about Husky football we would all think of a way to get a million black people to relocate from Mississippi or some other godforsaken shit bag state that is 10billion percent racist and do some program where they all move here.

    Black people rule, white people drool and make good QBs/TEs and OLs.

    This is true, but our black population seems to randomly produce RB's at a much faster pace than WR's. Perhaps it really is just random, perhaps it's a function of the way kids are used by the high school programs here, I'm not sure. But I know it's rare for Washington state to produce a WR worth a damn.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I love the list but I would swap #4 and #5. An all-galaxy CB is immensely valuable

    Agreed. RB is definitely too high.

    I know I'll be way in the minority on this but I'd probably take an elite WR over an elite RB quite honestly, especially given how rare it is for a an elite WR to come out of the state of Washington compared to an elite RB. We? produce RB's much better than WR's.
    Hmmmm... so serious question, who would you rather have on your team, Corey Dillon or Desmond Trufant?

    I would go with Dillon 10/10. And I love Desmond Trufant.

    And Corey was picked in the second round.

    When you have an elite player at TB he sees the ball 30 times/game (or, in our offense, 12-18) and that sort of production really matters.

    If you have an elite CB he only prevents like 6 out of 8 receptions for the opposing WR.
    Unfair question because I am totally gay for Corey Dillon. IIRC he was only a second rounder because of off the field concerns, he was clearly an all world talent.

    Give me four years of Corey Dillon over any CB who ever played at UW. But I'll take three years of Sidney Jones over every other RB we've had in my lifetime. Same for Marcus Peters.

    BTW, no RB sees the ball 30 times a game anymore. Those days are long gone.
    BUT STILL...

    Anyway, seriously - running backs can change games if they are really good. You need to be Deion Sanders to affect a game the way a tailback does.

    Now, if you ask me would I rather have Kev King and Sid Jones or a great tailback, that's easy, but in terms of 1 player, I'd rather have a truly great RB.