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dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,840
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Chase Williams seems to be pretty interested in UW. Obviously you both have him below Osbourne and Spiker, but a couple questions on him:

- How far below the other two do you have Williams?
- Is he a likely next man up if Spiker doesn't commit next week?
- Do you see UW going after him at safety rather than WR?
- If we do get Spiker could UW make him the third WR in this class with the thought they could move him later?

TIA
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    You're just a pawn in a money grab game mayne.

    But while we're at it, what is it about Wilson that makes you like him more than Williams? I don't really trust TBS rankings, especially not this early, especially after how badly they missed on my guy Ty last year, but Williams is basically universally rated much higher than Wilson. Interested in why you like him more (even if only slightly so)? What does he doe better, or project to do better?
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    You're just a pawn in a money grab game mayne.

    But while we're at it, what is it about Wilson that makes you like him more than Williams? I don't really trust TBS rankings, especially not this early, especially after how badly they missed on my guy Ty last year, but Williams is basically universally rated much higher than Wilson. Interested in why you like him more (even if only slightly so)? What does he doe better, or project to do better?
    He's better.

    His frame is big and his lateral quickness and ability to change speeds and get to full speed quickly is really impressive.

    Chase Willy doesn't suck, but he's just not quite at the same level athletically. Built a little slighter, etc.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    You're just a pawn in a money grab game mayne.

    But while we're at it, what is it about Wilson that makes you like him more than Williams? I don't really trust TBS rankings, especially not this early, especially after how badly they missed on my guy Ty last year, but Williams is basically universally rated much higher than Wilson. Interested in why you like him more (even if only slightly so)? What does he doe better, or project to do better?
    He's better.

    His frame is big and his lateral quickness and ability to change speeds and get to full speed quickly is really impressive.

    Chase Willy doesn't suck, but he's just not quite at the same level athletically. Built a little slighter, etc.
    That's what I was looking for, thank you.
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,280
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    I'm not sure if you're aware but around these parts we refer to Derek as Stalin.

    My guess is that he doesn't consider it "stealing".
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    whlinder said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    I'm not sure if you're aware but around these parts we refer to Derek as Stalin.

    My guess is that he doesn't consider it "stealing".
    Hail Our Führer @DerekJohnson !!!
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    So this is a 2 WR class then? Actually, I am going to start a thread about the next class in general which I hope DDY or Coker will fill in the blanks on.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Swaye said:

    So this is a 2 WR class then? Actually, I am going to start a thread about the next class in general which I hope DDY or Coker will fill in the blanks on.

    Thought about doing the same but never got around to it. Happy to let the Redman do the heavy lifting for me.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    WeakarmCobra said:

    whlinder said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    This is why I send in my $10.95 a month.

    TYFYS!
    I DONT SEE THIS MONEY, DEREK IS STEALING IT FROM ME!!!1!
    I'm not sure if you're aware but around these parts we refer to Derek as Stalin.

    My guess is that he doesn't consider it "stealing".
    Hail Our Führer @DerekJohnson !!!
    *Heil
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club
    PM to DDY and Coke:

    Who are we going to replace BBK with as our next shitty Viking linebacker? I've been worried about this for awhile now.
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    haie said:

    PM to DDY and Coke:

    Who are we going to replace BBK with as our next shitty Viking linebacker? I've been worried about this for awhile now.

    I could see Ben Wilson rocking this look if we end up offered him. Maybe not the beard so much, but the Nordic look with long hair.
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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    dnc said:

    Chase Williams seems to be pretty interested in UW. Obviously you both have him below Osbourne and Spiker, but a couple questions on him:

    - How far below the other two do you have Williams?
    - Is he a likely next man up if Spiker doesn't commit next week?
    - Do you see UW going after him at safety rather than WR?
    - If we do get Spiker could UW make him the third WR in this class with the thought they could move him later?

    TIA

    Something drastically wrong has gone on in your life when you're posting multiple times on TBS in the February preceding the actual February 3 days in December that counts.

    Its time to consult a professional
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    FreeChavez said:

    dnc said:

    Chase Williams seems to be pretty interested in UW. Obviously you both have him below Osbourne and Spiker, but a couple questions on him:

    - How far below the other two do you have Williams?
    - Is he a likely next man up if Spiker doesn't commit next week?
    - Do you see UW going after him at safety rather than WR?
    - If we do get Spiker could UW make him the third WR in this class with the thought they could move him later?

    TIA

    Something drastically wrong has gone on in your life when you're posting multiple times on TBS in the February preceding the actual February 3 days in December that counts.

    Its time to consult a professional
    Yr, yk
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  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    FreeChavez said:

    dnc said:

    Chase Williams seems to be pretty interested in UW. Obviously you both have him below Osbourne and Spiker, but a couple questions on him:

    - How far below the other two do you have Williams?
    - Is he a likely next man up if Spiker doesn't commit next week?
    - Do you see UW going after him at safety rather than WR?
    - If we do get Spiker could UW make him the third WR in this class with the thought they could move him later?

    TIA

    Something drastically wrong has gone on in your life when you're posting multiple times on TBS in the February preceding the actual February 3 days in December that counts.

    Its time to consult a professional
    You spend most of your time poasting about Washington men's basketball. Pot, kettle??
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
    I just like to win. Love Osbourne, but WRs ain't that important.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Passion said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
    I just like to win. Love Osbourne, but WRs ain't that important.
    I think we just happy that we are actually getting good talent at WR, but we all know that this game is won in the trenches.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
    I just like to win. Love Osbourne, but WRs ain't that important.
    I think we just happy that we are actually getting good talent at WR, but we all know that this game is won in the trenches.
    Fair enough. Cue the "Doog It Up" video.
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  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Passion said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
    I just like to win. Love Osbourne, but WRs ain't that important.
    Conference titles are won in the trenches, natties are won at every single position.
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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Passion said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Michael Wilson is my number 3 of WR, then Chase Williams is next (this does not include Jalen Hall because he's going to USC). Wilson and Williams are both just a notch below Spiker and Osborne to me, but both are still very good.

    I'd only take one of them in addition to Spiker and Osborne if we only take 1 TE. I like Williams better at WR than I do safety, so I don't see that happening.

    And yes, if Spiker doesn't commit I see us going after Wilson and Williams and seeing who commits first.

    All this energy lately discussing WRs. Fuck me.
    Sorry we forgot you like heat from the edge and push down th middle
    I just like to win. Love Osbourne, but WRs ain't that important.
    I think we just happy that we are actually getting good talent at WR, but we all know that this game is won in the trenches.
    yah, cue all the strausser hate comments.


    losing battle of the trenches > qb is pressured or killed > elite wr's can't get the ball > elite running game is stuffed (unless you're bo jackson or jim brown against a HS team).

    the whole goddamn offense cannot function to it's potential ...
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    WRs are the second least important position... If I could have a good player at any position it would go like:

    1. QB
    2. DL
    3. OL
    4. RB
    5. DB
    6. LB
    7. WR
    8. TE
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    WRs are the second least important position... If I could have a good player at any position it would go like:

    1. QB
    2. DL
    3. OL
    4. RB
    5. DB
    6. LB
    7. WR
    8. TE

    This man knows shit.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    WRs are the second least important position... If I could have a good player at any position it would go like:

    1. QB
    2. DL
    3. OL
    4. RB
    5. DB
    6. LB
    7. WR
    8. TE

    Also, good to know we have lousy fuckass recruiters at two of the top 3 positions, and a question mark at the other. But we got 5 and 7 covered! FML.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited February 2017
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    WRs are the second least important position... If I could have a good player at any position it would go like:

    1a. QB
    1b. DL
    2. OL
    4. RB
    5. DB
    6. LB
    7. WR
    8. TE

    Why? Because there have been plenty of average-to-good QBs that have won Super Bowls, big games, etc (Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Phil Simms to name a few). A great defense can win if the QB simply throws the ball out of bounds when nothing is there, rather that shit his pants and throw costly pics. John Elway never won a Super Bowl until the broncos got a defense and a good running game with Terrell Davis.

    Give me an outstanding front four, a good running game and a QB that simply doesn't fuck up.
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