@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
My grand parents immigrated from Italy. You are poorly informed. They came here worked hard and left the ghetto. Every ethnicity generally landed in a ghetto of sorts made up of their own kind. Irish, Jewish, Italian, Greek, Polish etc etc. They worked hard and tried to fit in. They learned english, became citizens and strove to fit in and be Americans. Their children went into the military, married Americans and they called themselves Americans. They didn't abandon their ethnicity but being an American always came first. They were not Italian-Americans they were Americans of Italian decent.
Bannon hates Islam and recognizes the threat that Muslim invasion... err immigration poses to the West. Thats good enough for me.
Bannon is a paranoid nut job who wants to destroy Islam for reasons all his own.
Again, that's a good enough reason for me and half the nation.
You've defined the problem.
The problem has been defined and exposed in Europe. Islam can't coexist with the West and needs to stay in the Middle East. By and large the moslems do not assimilate, they hunker down in ghettoes like Molenbeek where they are free to hatch their dirty little terroristic plots because the nations that host these parasites are too weak willed and pc to purge them from their midst. They make no secret of their intention to conquer Europe by out-procreating the native populations and slowly instituting sharia law by taking advantage of western liberal culture that is too fucktarded to recognize the threat, and too pc to call it out. If Islam continues to push against the West and kill our citizens and invade our nations, it will awaken the monster and there will be hell to pay. The punishment will be so severe and extreme that the leaders of these medieval third world monkey nations will root out the extremists in their midst out of fear of what we will do to them if they don't. The complete and total destruction of Islam itself is the preferable outcome, but unfortunately that will never happen.
And yet, somehow, all those Turks have assimilated just fine in Germany.
Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, or even in ten years. It takes a while. The Irish weren't welcomed here (those filthy grubbies aren't English!), then the Germans weren't welcomed here (they don't even speak English!), then the Jews and Italians weren't welcomed here (at least the Germans are Anglo-Saxon!), then the Chinese weren't welcomed here (fucking slants, build our railroads then go home!), then the Mexicans (pick our veggies and stay in your fucking barrios!) and the Vietnamese and Cambodians (don't eat our dogs goddammit!) weren't welcomed here. Every wave of immigration starts on the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, usually set apart from the rest of the host country in their own ghettos. The first generation appreciates the host country because they know how fucking bad the situation was that they left behind. The second generation has the toughest time because they don't know how bad it was back in the Old Country and aren't really accepted as Americans, or Europeans, or whatever. The third generation is the generation that is finally seen as "native," as assimilated.
That's where the Turks in Germany are now; many were brought in after WWII to help rebuild the country as cheap labor, and they decided to stay. They weren't welcome, they had their own neighborhoods, and now they're seen as Germans. The recent wave of immigrants to Europe and, to a lesser extent the US, is no different than the Turks in Germany or any of the previous immigrant waves to America, and it's entirely unfair to cast them as such, somehow unassimilatable just because of Islam. And Europe can do better in helping them assimilate (the French especially - they've done a pisspoor job of assimilating the Algerians); that's one thing we do better over here, probably because we've got so much more experience.
Yeah, I remember those days, when the Irish terrorists blew up our English pubs, when the Jewish extremists opened fire on our concerts, when the Italian barbarians cut off our heads in the streets, and then there were the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodian suicide bombers. Those were really dark days in American history.
The arab moslems are different from those other groups of mostly peaceful immigrants and have distinguished themselves as singularly incapable of assimilation and peaceful coexistence with other cultures. We are seeing it in Europe. We have seen it in Israel. Wherever they go, suicide bombings, mass killings, terrorist events follow. We owe them no grace period and no lenience, no benefit of the doubt when the paper trail of atrocities committed by Islam extends nearly as far back in time as the latter days of the Roman Empire.
Read a history book about the violence attributed to Irish gangs on the Eastern Seaboard in the 1800's. Maybe do a little research on Jewish and Italian gangs, too.
I've seen two incidents in the US, Orlando and San Bernardino. Both were cases of people born and raised in the US who later became radicalized. I've also seen a lot of shit that white Americans do to each other, in the name of pro-life or race wars. I'm more concerned with McVeigh-type homegrown militia violence than I am with potential refugee terrorism.
Thankfully America doesn't border the barbarian lands in the Middle East and hasn't been subjected to the Islamic invasion that Europe is currently dealing with. The terrorist events that have occurred there so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Merkel is the poster child for radical liberal idiocy and has doomed the continent to an eventual civil war that we will likely have to clean up with the help of the Russians. Are you willing to live with the occasional terrorist event that kills 50-100 people every few months like they are?
Even more sinister is the slow, creeping spread of sharia law there. It is a criminal offense in Finland to slander or criticize Islam by not distinguishing between Islam and "radical Islam" even though they are one and the same. It is a criminal offense in many European countries to criticize the "migrant" invaders or the government's "migrant" policy. In Germany they raid peoples' homes if they dare to post opinions critical of the government's policies on social media.
Or, the more likely scenario is that the vast majority of the Islamic immigrants live their lives in peace and assimilate, like the Turks in Germany did sixty years ago. To be sure, Europe has to do a better job of letting these immigrants feel they have are welcome and have a stake in the system. People who feel they have a stake in the system tend not to want to undermine it, and recent immigrants can be the staunchest supporters because they know firsthand what it's like elsewhere. It's still fair to ask "Yeah, well, why do we have to do that?" Because it's the civilized and humane thing to do to help people who need help. And because it makes good economic sense; Europe needs a labor force for its aging population. The US has a larger young labor force than Europe in part because of its immigrant population. So it makes good economic sense, in addition to being the Right Thing To Do.
How about the rich muslim countries take them in where they fit and can kill their wives and daughters in peace without going to prison? Oh yeah they won't take them because they fear terrorist attacks as well. If your own kind who are well off won't take them it's a clue as to why we shouldn't.
Bannon hates Islam and recognizes the threat that Muslim invasion... err immigration poses to the West. Thats good enough for me.
Bannon is a paranoid nut job who wants to destroy Islam for reasons all his own.
Again, that's a good enough reason for me and half the nation.
You've defined the problem.
The problem has been defined and exposed in Europe. Islam can't coexist with the West and needs to stay in the Middle East. By and large the moslems do not assimilate, they hunker down in ghettoes like Molenbeek where they are free to hatch their dirty little terroristic plots because the nations that host these parasites are too weak willed and pc to purge them from their midst. They make no secret of their intention to conquer Europe by out-procreating the native populations and slowly instituting sharia law by taking advantage of western liberal culture that is too fucktarded to recognize the threat, and too pc to call it out. If Islam continues to push against the West and kill our citizens and invade our nations, it will awaken the monster and there will be hell to pay. The punishment will be so severe and extreme that the leaders of these medieval third world monkey nations will root out the extremists in their midst out of fear of what we will do to them if they don't. The complete and total destruction of Islam itself is the preferable outcome, but unfortunately that will never happen.
And yet, somehow, all those Turks have assimilated just fine in Germany.
Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, or even in ten years. It takes a while. The Irish weren't welcomed here (those filthy grubbies aren't English!), then the Germans weren't welcomed here (they don't even speak English!), then the Jews and Italians weren't welcomed here (at least the Germans are Anglo-Saxon!), then the Chinese weren't welcomed here (fucking slants, build our railroads then go home!), then the Mexicans (pick our veggies and stay in your fucking barrios!) and the Vietnamese and Cambodians (don't eat our dogs goddammit!) weren't welcomed here. Every wave of immigration starts on the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, usually set apart from the rest of the host country in their own ghettos. The first generation appreciates the host country because they know how fucking bad the situation was that they left behind. The second generation has the toughest time because they don't know how bad it was back in the Old Country and aren't really accepted as Americans, or Europeans, or whatever. The third generation is the generation that is finally seen as "native," as assimilated.
That's where the Turks in Germany are now; many were brought in after WWII to help rebuild the country as cheap labor, and they decided to stay. They weren't welcome, they had their own neighborhoods, and now they're seen as Germans. The recent wave of immigrants to Europe and, to a lesser extent the US, is no different than the Turks in Germany or any of the previous immigrant waves to America, and it's entirely unfair to cast them as such, somehow unassimilatable just because of Islam. And Europe can do better in helping them assimilate (the French especially - they've done a pisspoor job of assimilating the Algerians); that's one thing we do better over here, probably because we've got so much more experience.
Yeah, I remember those days, when the Irish terrorists blew up our English pubs, when the Jewish extremists opened fire on our concerts, when the Italian barbarians cut off our heads in the streets, and then there were the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodian suicide bombers. Those were really dark days in American history.
The arab moslems are different from those other groups of mostly peaceful immigrants and have distinguished themselves as singularly incapable of assimilation and peaceful coexistence with other cultures. We are seeing it in Europe. We have seen it in Israel. Wherever they go, suicide bombings, mass killings, terrorist events follow. We owe them no grace period and no lenience, no benefit of the doubt when the paper trail of atrocities committed by Islam extends nearly as far back in time as the latter days of the Roman Empire.
Read a history book about the violence attributed to Irish gangs on the Eastern Seaboard in the 1800's. Maybe do a little research on Jewish and Italian gangs, too.
I've seen two incidents in the US, Orlando and San Bernardino. Both were cases of people born and raised in the US who later became radicalized. I've also seen a lot of shit that white Americans do to each other, in the name of pro-life or race wars. I'm more concerned with McVeigh-type homegrown militia violence than I am with potential refugee terrorism.
Thankfully America doesn't border the barbarian lands in the Middle East and hasn't been subjected to the Islamic invasion that Europe is currently dealing with. The terrorist events that have occurred there so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Merkel is the poster child for radical liberal idiocy and has doomed the continent to an eventual civil war that we will likely have to clean up with the help of the Russians. Are you willing to live with the occasional terrorist event that kills 50-100 people every few months like they are?
Even more sinister is the slow, creeping spread of sharia law there. It is a criminal offense in Finland to slander or criticize Islam by not distinguishing between Islam and "radical Islam" even though they are one and the same. It is a criminal offense in many European countries to criticize the "migrant" invaders or the government's "migrant" policy. In Germany they raid peoples' homes if they dare to post opinions critical of the government's policies on social media.
Or, the more likely scenario is that the vast majority of the Islamic immigrants live their lives in peace and assimilate, like the Turks in Germany did sixty years ago. To be sure, Europe has to do a better job of letting these immigrants feel they have are welcome and have a stake in the system. People who feel they have a stake in the system tend not to want to undermine it, and recent immigrants can be the staunchest supporters because they know firsthand what it's like elsewhere. It's still fair to ask "Yeah, well, why do we have to do that?" Because it's the civilized and humane thing to do to help people who need help. And because it makes good economic sense; Europe needs a labor force for its aging population. The US has a larger young labor force than Europe in part because of its immigrant population. So it makes good economic sense, in addition to being the Right Thing To Do.
How about the rich muslim countries take them in where they fit and can kill their wives and daughters in peace without going to prison? Oh yeah they won't take them because they fear terrorist attacks as well. If your own kind who are well off won't take them it's a clue as to why we shouldn't.
Many of them are.
Where's your list?
Fuck you. Posted this once already - try to keep up. For starters, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, and Iraq have all taken in substantially more refugees than the US.
Bannon hates Islam and recognizes the threat that Muslim invasion... err immigration poses to the West. Thats good enough for me.
Bannon is a paranoid nut job who wants to destroy Islam for reasons all his own.
Again, that's a good enough reason for me and half the nation.
You've defined the problem.
The problem has been defined and exposed in Europe. Islam can't coexist with the West and needs to stay in the Middle East. By and large the moslems do not assimilate, they hunker down in ghettoes like Molenbeek where they are free to hatch their dirty little terroristic plots because the nations that host these parasites are too weak willed and pc to purge them from their midst. They make no secret of their intention to conquer Europe by out-procreating the native populations and slowly instituting sharia law by taking advantage of western liberal culture that is too fucktarded to recognize the threat, and too pc to call it out. If Islam continues to push against the West and kill our citizens and invade our nations, it will awaken the monster and there will be hell to pay. The punishment will be so severe and extreme that the leaders of these medieval third world monkey nations will root out the extremists in their midst out of fear of what we will do to them if they don't. The complete and total destruction of Islam itself is the preferable outcome, but unfortunately that will never happen.
And yet, somehow, all those Turks have assimilated just fine in Germany.
Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, or even in ten years. It takes a while. The Irish weren't welcomed here (those filthy grubbies aren't English!), then the Germans weren't welcomed here (they don't even speak English!), then the Jews and Italians weren't welcomed here (at least the Germans are Anglo-Saxon!), then the Chinese weren't welcomed here (fucking slants, build our railroads then go home!), then the Mexicans (pick our veggies and stay in your fucking barrios!) and the Vietnamese and Cambodians (don't eat our dogs goddammit!) weren't welcomed here. Every wave of immigration starts on the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, usually set apart from the rest of the host country in their own ghettos. The first generation appreciates the host country because they know how fucking bad the situation was that they left behind. The second generation has the toughest time because they don't know how bad it was back in the Old Country and aren't really accepted as Americans, or Europeans, or whatever. The third generation is the generation that is finally seen as "native," as assimilated.
That's where the Turks in Germany are now; many were brought in after WWII to help rebuild the country as cheap labor, and they decided to stay. They weren't welcome, they had their own neighborhoods, and now they're seen as Germans. The recent wave of immigrants to Europe and, to a lesser extent the US, is no different than the Turks in Germany or any of the previous immigrant waves to America, and it's entirely unfair to cast them as such, somehow unassimilatable just because of Islam. And Europe can do better in helping them assimilate (the French especially - they've done a pisspoor job of assimilating the Algerians); that's one thing we do better over here, probably because we've got so much more experience.
Yeah, I remember those days, when the Irish terrorists blew up our English pubs, when the Jewish extremists opened fire on our concerts, when the Italian barbarians cut off our heads in the streets, and then there were the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodian suicide bombers. Those were really dark days in American history.
The arab moslems are different from those other groups of mostly peaceful immigrants and have distinguished themselves as singularly incapable of assimilation and peaceful coexistence with other cultures. We are seeing it in Europe. We have seen it in Israel. Wherever they go, suicide bombings, mass killings, terrorist events follow. We owe them no grace period and no lenience, no benefit of the doubt when the paper trail of atrocities committed by Islam extends nearly as far back in time as the latter days of the Roman Empire.
Read a history book about the violence attributed to Irish gangs on the Eastern Seaboard in the 1800's. Maybe do a little research on Jewish and Italian gangs, too.
I've seen two incidents in the US, Orlando and San Bernardino. Both were cases of people born and raised in the US who later became radicalized. I've also seen a lot of shit that white Americans do to each other, in the name of pro-life or race wars. I'm more concerned with McVeigh-type homegrown militia violence than I am with potential refugee terrorism.
Thankfully America doesn't border the barbarian lands in the Middle East and hasn't been subjected to the Islamic invasion that Europe is currently dealing with. The terrorist events that have occurred there so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Merkel is the poster child for radical liberal idiocy and has doomed the continent to an eventual civil war that we will likely have to clean up with the help of the Russians. Are you willing to live with the occasional terrorist event that kills 50-100 people every few months like they are?
Even more sinister is the slow, creeping spread of sharia law there. It is a criminal offense in Finland to slander or criticize Islam by not distinguishing between Islam and "radical Islam" even though they are one and the same. It is a criminal offense in many European countries to criticize the "migrant" invaders or the government's "migrant" policy. In Germany they raid peoples' homes if they dare to post opinions critical of the government's policies on social media.
Or, the more likely scenario is that the vast majority of the Islamic immigrants live their lives in peace and assimilate, like the Turks in Germany did sixty years ago. To be sure, Europe has to do a better job of letting these immigrants feel they have are welcome and have a stake in the system. People who feel they have a stake in the system tend not to want to undermine it, and recent immigrants can be the staunchest supporters because they know firsthand what it's like elsewhere. It's still fair to ask "Yeah, well, why do we have to do that?" Because it's the civilized and humane thing to do to help people who need help. And because it makes good economic sense; Europe needs a labor force for its aging population. The US has a larger young labor force than Europe in part because of its immigrant population. So it makes good economic sense, in addition to being the Right Thing To Do.
How about the rich muslim countries take them in where they fit and can kill their wives and daughters in peace without going to prison? Oh yeah they won't take them because they fear terrorist attacks as well. If your own kind who are well off won't take them it's a clue as to why we shouldn't.
Many of them are.
Where's your list?
Fuck you. Posted this once already - try to keep up. For starters, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, and Iraq have all taken in substantially more refugees than the US.
Saudi Arabia is a big cuntry cunt. Why don't they open up and take the fucking they so righteously deserve?
Bannon hates Islam and recognizes the threat that Muslim invasion... err immigration poses to the West. Thats good enough for me.
Bannon is a paranoid nut job who wants to destroy Islam for reasons all his own.
Again, that's a good enough reason for me and half the nation.
You've defined the problem.
The problem has been defined and exposed in Europe. Islam can't coexist with the West and needs to stay in the Middle East. By and large the moslems do not assimilate, they hunker down in ghettoes like Molenbeek where they are free to hatch their dirty little terroristic plots because the nations that host these parasites are too weak willed and pc to purge them from their midst. They make no secret of their intention to conquer Europe by out-procreating the native populations and slowly instituting sharia law by taking advantage of western liberal culture that is too fucktarded to recognize the threat, and too pc to call it out. If Islam continues to push against the West and kill our citizens and invade our nations, it will awaken the monster and there will be hell to pay. The punishment will be so severe and extreme that the leaders of these medieval third world monkey nations will root out the extremists in their midst out of fear of what we will do to them if they don't. The complete and total destruction of Islam itself is the preferable outcome, but unfortunately that will never happen.
And yet, somehow, all those Turks have assimilated just fine in Germany.
Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, or even in ten years. It takes a while. The Irish weren't welcomed here (those filthy grubbies aren't English!), then the Germans weren't welcomed here (they don't even speak English!), then the Jews and Italians weren't welcomed here (at least the Germans are Anglo-Saxon!), then the Chinese weren't welcomed here (fucking slants, build our railroads then go home!), then the Mexicans (pick our veggies and stay in your fucking barrios!) and the Vietnamese and Cambodians (don't eat our dogs goddammit!) weren't welcomed here. Every wave of immigration starts on the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, usually set apart from the rest of the host country in their own ghettos. The first generation appreciates the host country because they know how fucking bad the situation was that they left behind. The second generation has the toughest time because they don't know how bad it was back in the Old Country and aren't really accepted as Americans, or Europeans, or whatever. The third generation is the generation that is finally seen as "native," as assimilated.
That's where the Turks in Germany are now; many were brought in after WWII to help rebuild the country as cheap labor, and they decided to stay. They weren't welcome, they had their own neighborhoods, and now they're seen as Germans. The recent wave of immigrants to Europe and, to a lesser extent the US, is no different than the Turks in Germany or any of the previous immigrant waves to America, and it's entirely unfair to cast them as such, somehow unassimilatable just because of Islam. And Europe can do better in helping them assimilate (the French especially - they've done a pisspoor job of assimilating the Algerians); that's one thing we do better over here, probably because we've got so much more experience.
Yeah, I remember those days, when the Irish terrorists blew up our English pubs, when the Jewish extremists opened fire on our concerts, when the Italian barbarians cut off our heads in the streets, and then there were the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodian suicide bombers. Those were really dark days in American history.
The arab moslems are different from those other groups of mostly peaceful immigrants and have distinguished themselves as singularly incapable of assimilation and peaceful coexistence with other cultures. We are seeing it in Europe. We have seen it in Israel. Wherever they go, suicide bombings, mass killings, terrorist events follow. We owe them no grace period and no lenience, no benefit of the doubt when the paper trail of atrocities committed by Islam extends nearly as far back in time as the latter days of the Roman Empire.
Read a history book about the violence attributed to Irish gangs on the Eastern Seaboard in the 1800's. Maybe do a little research on Jewish and Italian gangs, too.
I've seen two incidents in the US, Orlando and San Bernardino. Both were cases of people born and raised in the US who later became radicalized. I've also seen a lot of shit that white Americans do to each other, in the name of pro-life or race wars. I'm more concerned with McVeigh-type homegrown militia violence than I am with potential refugee terrorism.
Thankfully America doesn't border the barbarian lands in the Middle East and hasn't been subjected to the Islamic invasion that Europe is currently dealing with. The terrorist events that have occurred there so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Merkel is the poster child for radical liberal idiocy and has doomed the continent to an eventual civil war that we will likely have to clean up with the help of the Russians. Are you willing to live with the occasional terrorist event that kills 50-100 people every few months like they are?
Even more sinister is the slow, creeping spread of sharia law there. It is a criminal offense in Finland to slander or criticize Islam by not distinguishing between Islam and "radical Islam" even though they are one and the same. It is a criminal offense in many European countries to criticize the "migrant" invaders or the government's "migrant" policy. In Germany they raid peoples' homes if they dare to post opinions critical of the government's policies on social media.
Or, the more likely scenario is that the vast majority of the Islamic immigrants live their lives in peace and assimilate, like the Turks in Germany did sixty years ago. To be sure, Europe has to do a better job of letting these immigrants feel they have are welcome and have a stake in the system. People who feel they have a stake in the system tend not to want to undermine it, and recent immigrants can be the staunchest supporters because they know firsthand what it's like elsewhere. It's still fair to ask "Yeah, well, why do we have to do that?" Because it's the civilized and humane thing to do to help people who need help. And because it makes good economic sense; Europe needs a labor force for its aging population. The US has a larger young labor force than Europe in part because of its immigrant population. So it makes good economic sense, in addition to being the Right Thing To Do.
How about the rich muslim countries take them in where they fit and can kill their wives and daughters in peace without going to prison? Oh yeah they won't take them because they fear terrorist attacks as well. If your own kind who are well off won't take them it's a clue as to why we shouldn't.
Many of them are.
Where's your list?
Fuck you. Posted this once already - try to keep up. For starters, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, and Iraq have all taken in substantially more refugees than the US.
Saudi Arabia is a big cuntry cunt. Why don't they open up and take the fucking they so righteously deserve?
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
My grand parents immigrated from Italy. You are poorly informed. They came here worked hard and left the ghetto. Every ethnicity generally landed in a ghetto of sorts made up of their own kind. Irish, Jewish, Italian, Greek, Polish etc etc. They worked hard and tried to fit in. They learned english, became citizens and strove to fit in and be Americans. Their children went into the military, married Americans and they called themselves Americans. They didn't abandon their ethnicity but being an American always came first. They were not Italian-Americans they were Americans of Italian decent.
That can't be right. He must have accidentally splashed kerosene on himself while performing an honor killing.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
But we still let them in. People are people. They come around and become good Americans. Even the hateful ones already here come around, if more slowly then the rest of us.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
But we still let them in.
Didn't I just say that?
They shouldn't be able to skip the treated like shit stage.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
Bannon hates Islam and recognizes the threat that Muslim invasion... err immigration poses to the West. Thats good enough for me.
Bannon is a paranoid nut job who wants to destroy Islam for reasons all his own.
Again, that's a good enough reason for me and half the nation.
You've defined the problem.
The problem has been defined and exposed in Europe. Islam can't coexist with the West and needs to stay in the Middle East. By and large the moslems do not assimilate, they hunker down in ghettoes like Molenbeek where they are free to hatch their dirty little terroristic plots because the nations that host these parasites are too weak willed and pc to purge them from their midst. They make no secret of their intention to conquer Europe by out-procreating the native populations and slowly instituting sharia law by taking advantage of western liberal culture that is too fucktarded to recognize the threat, and too pc to call it out. If Islam continues to push against the West and kill our citizens and invade our nations, it will awaken the monster and there will be hell to pay. The punishment will be so severe and extreme that the leaders of these medieval third world monkey nations will root out the extremists in their midst out of fear of what we will do to them if they don't. The complete and total destruction of Islam itself is the preferable outcome, but unfortunately that will never happen.
And yet, somehow, all those Turks have assimilated just fine in Germany.
Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, or even in ten years. It takes a while. The Irish weren't welcomed here (those filthy grubbies aren't English!), then the Germans weren't welcomed here (they don't even speak English!), then the Jews and Italians weren't welcomed here (at least the Germans are Anglo-Saxon!), then the Chinese weren't welcomed here (fucking slants, build our railroads then go home!), then the Mexicans (pick our veggies and stay in your fucking barrios!) and the Vietnamese and Cambodians (don't eat our dogs goddammit!) weren't welcomed here. Every wave of immigration starts on the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, usually set apart from the rest of the host country in their own ghettos. The first generation appreciates the host country because they know how fucking bad the situation was that they left behind. The second generation has the toughest time because they don't know how bad it was back in the Old Country and aren't really accepted as Americans, or Europeans, or whatever. The third generation is the generation that is finally seen as "native," as assimilated.
That's where the Turks in Germany are now; many were brought in after WWII to help rebuild the country as cheap labor, and they decided to stay. They weren't welcome, they had their own neighborhoods, and now they're seen as Germans. The recent wave of immigrants to Europe and, to a lesser extent the US, is no different than the Turks in Germany or any of the previous immigrant waves to America, and it's entirely unfair to cast them as such, somehow unassimilatable just because of Islam. And Europe can do better in helping them assimilate (the French especially - they've done a pisspoor job of assimilating the Algerians); that's one thing we do better over here, probably because we've got so much more experience.
Yeah, I remember those days, when the Irish terrorists blew up our English pubs, when the Jewish extremists opened fire on our concerts, when the Italian barbarians cut off our heads in the streets, and then there were the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodian suicide bombers. Those were really dark days in American history.
The arab moslems are different from those other groups of mostly peaceful immigrants and have distinguished themselves as singularly incapable of assimilation and peaceful coexistence with other cultures. We are seeing it in Europe. We have seen it in Israel. Wherever they go, suicide bombings, mass killings, terrorist events follow. We owe them no grace period and no lenience, no benefit of the doubt when the paper trail of atrocities committed by Islam extends nearly as far back in time as the latter days of the Roman Empire.
Read a history book about the violence attributed to Irish gangs on the Eastern Seaboard in the 1800's. Maybe do a little research on Jewish and Italian gangs, too.
I've seen two incidents in the US, Orlando and San Bernardino. Both were cases of people born and raised in the US who later became radicalized. I've also seen a lot of shit that white Americans do to each other, in the name of pro-life or race wars. I'm more concerned with McVeigh-type homegrown militia violence than I am with potential refugee terrorism.
Thankfully America doesn't border the barbarian lands in the Middle East and hasn't been subjected to the Islamic invasion that Europe is currently dealing with. The terrorist events that have occurred there so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Merkel is the poster child for radical liberal idiocy and has doomed the continent to an eventual civil war that we will likely have to clean up with the help of the Russians. Are you willing to live with the occasional terrorist event that kills 50-100 people every few months like they are?
Even more sinister is the slow, creeping spread of sharia law there. It is a criminal offense in Finland to slander or criticize Islam by not distinguishing between Islam and "radical Islam" even though they are one and the same. It is a criminal offense in many European countries to criticize the "migrant" invaders or the government's "migrant" policy. In Germany they raid peoples' homes if they dare to post opinions critical of the government's policies on social media.
Or, the more likely scenario is that the vast majority of the Islamic immigrants live their lives in peace and assimilate, like the Turks in Germany did sixty years ago. To be sure, Europe has to do a better job of letting these immigrants feel they have are welcome and have a stake in the system. People who feel they have a stake in the system tend not to want to undermine it, and recent immigrants can be the staunchest supporters because they know firsthand what it's like elsewhere. It's still fair to ask "Yeah, well, why do we have to do that?" Because it's the civilized and humane thing to do to help people who need help. And because it makes good economic sense; Europe needs a labor force for its aging population. The US has a larger young labor force than Europe in part because of its immigrant population. So it makes good economic sense, in addition to being the Right Thing To Do.
How about the rich muslim countries take them in where they fit and can kill their wives and daughters in peace without going to prison? Oh yeah they won't take them because they fear terrorist attacks as well. If your own kind who are well off won't take them it's a clue as to why we shouldn't.
Many of them are.
Where's your list?
Fuck you. Posted this once already - try to keep up. For starters, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, and Iraq have all taken in substantially more refugees than the US.
How about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Oman, Qatar etc. No reason for us to take any.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
But we still let them in. People are people. They come around and become good Americans. Even the hateful ones already here come around, if more slowly then the rest of us.
Great please take in a bunch of them at your house. Drop by Dearborn Michigan.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
But we still let them in. People are people. They come around and become good Americans. Even the hateful ones already here come around, if more slowly then the rest of us.
Great please take in a bunch of them at your house. Drop by Dearborn Michigan.
@BearsWiin would you agree that we have less emphasis on assimilation and more on keeping ones culture than we did back in the day of the European migration?
We also took a time out to help assimilation and we were tuff and uncaring. Learn engrish get a job or starve.
We don't need to get rid of religion we need to get rid of gubment religion. That's the issue today with Islam and the difference. It's why people go b a ck to the days of theocracy in Europe to draw a parallel of barbarism
I don't think it's that simple. Irish and Italian immigrants were generally less well-off, so they stayed in the cities in poor conditions, stuck to themselves, and retained their Old World ways. There's still a Little Italy in New York, from what Spike Lee movies tell me. I hear some cities have Chinatowns and such, too. The German and Scandinavian immigrants were more likely to be better off, and thus more likely to leapfrog the entry-point cities and get to the hinterland of Minnesota and Wisconsin, etc. But even there they retained much of their customs and language for many decades after coming here. My grandmother was born in Michigan, but to her dying day in 2000 she spoke fluent Finnish, taught to her by her immigrant parents. There may actually be more of an outcry now about learning Engrish and assimilating, since the more recent waves have been from non-European areas and are seen as more threatening to the "American way of life," which most still associate with European history and culture.
We(?) treated the next wave of immigrants like shit. The English treated the Jews like shit. Then English and Jews both treated the Irish like shit.
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
But we still let them in.
Didn't I just say that?
Amended to finish the thought. Wait, not done yet
FUCK YOU
OK, finished
Don't treat me like a Mexican. I am way farther up the food chain of mongrels. Cheerio and Achtung, baby.
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cuntrycunt. Why don't they open up and take the fucking they so righteously deserve?Modern day Swedes:
The English, the Jews and the Irish treated the Italians like shit. They all treated the Chinese like shit.
Let the muslims refugees in and then treat them like shit like everyone else had to go through.
It's the American way.
They shouldn't be able to skip the treated like shit stage.
No homo
FUCK YOU
OK, finished