Obamacare 2.0
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Only because you're Chuckie Schumers new fluffer and he hasn't authorized you to think any other way2001400ex said:
My maff is wrong some days. But I still think your story is bullshit.Mosster47 said:
$6,000 ÷ 12 = $800?2001400ex said:
You have the wrong job if you work for the federal government and are on the hook for over $800 month.Mosster47 said:
The Federal Government?2001400ex said:
Your employer should shop it's medical insurance. Ours has gone up about 10% total since 12. We did switch carriers in 2014 and threatened to do so again this year.Mosster47 said:So I did my taxes today. My health insurance premiums were over $16k this year. My employer paid $10k, the rest was on me. I also paid $1,200 out of pocket.
As an example the year before the AHCA that same policy was $8k total.
How is this guy's only legacy piece not a piece of shit?
While Obamacare hasn't been successful at controlling health care costs, it has slowed the growth.
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bush’s first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
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From the dude who has never actually posted one link with a fact. Ever.doogie said:
Only because you're Chuckie Schumers new fluffer and he hasn't authorized you to think any other way2001400ex said:
My maff is wrong some days. But I still think your story is bullshit.Mosster47 said:
$6,000 ÷ 12 = $800?2001400ex said:
You have the wrong job if you work for the federal government and are on the hook for over $800 month.Mosster47 said:
The Federal Government?2001400ex said:
Your employer should shop it's medical insurance. Ours has gone up about 10% total since 12. We did switch carriers in 2014 and threatened to do so again this year.Mosster47 said:So I did my taxes today. My health insurance premiums were over $16k this year. My employer paid $10k, the rest was on me. I also paid $1,200 out of pocket.
As an example the year before the AHCA that same policy was $8k total.
How is this guy's only legacy piece not a piece of shit?
While Obamacare hasn't been successful at controlling health care costs, it has slowed the growth.
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bush’s first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
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I think we should go ahead and trust the assholes who lied about Obamacare on single payer. I'm sure they will tell the truth this time
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2011 to 2016, but still.2001400ex said:
I was referring to insurance for the exact same coverage going up from $8k in 2012 to $16k in 2016. On a federal government plan.UWhuskytskeet said:
$500 for his wife and kids' coverage is my guess.2001400ex said:
My maff is wrong some days. But I still think your story is bullshit.Mosster47 said:
$6,000 ÷ 12 = $800?2001400ex said:
You have the wrong job if you work for the federal government and are on the hook for over $800 month.Mosster47 said:
The Federal Government?2001400ex said:
Your employer should shop it's medical insurance. Ours has gone up about 10% total since 12. We did switch carriers in 2014 and threatened to do so again this year.Mosster47 said:So I did my taxes today. My health insurance premiums were over $16k this year. My employer paid $10k, the rest was on me. I also paid $1,200 out of pocket.
As an example the year before the AHCA that same policy was $8k total.
How is this guy's only legacy piece not a piece of shit?
While Obamacare hasn't been successful at controlling health care costs, it has slowed the growth.
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bush’s first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
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That makes all the difference.Mosster47 said:
2011 to 2016, but still.2001400ex said:
I was referring to insurance for the exact same coverage going up from $8k in 2012 to $16k in 2016. On a federal government plan.UWhuskytskeet said:
$500 for his wife and kids' coverage is my guess.2001400ex said:
My maff is wrong some days. But I still think your story is bullshit.Mosster47 said:
$6,000 ÷ 12 = $800?2001400ex said:
You have the wrong job if you work for the federal government and are on the hook for over $800 month.Mosster47 said:
The Federal Government?2001400ex said:
Your employer should shop it's medical insurance. Ours has gone up about 10% total since 12. We did switch carriers in 2014 and threatened to do so again this year.Mosster47 said:So I did my taxes today. My health insurance premiums were over $16k this year. My employer paid $10k, the rest was on me. I also paid $1,200 out of pocket.
As an example the year before the AHCA that same policy was $8k total.
How is this guy's only legacy piece not a piece of shit?
While Obamacare hasn't been successful at controlling health care costs, it has slowed the growth.
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bush’s first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
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or maybe we could trust every other modern countryRaceBannon said:I think we should go ahead and trust the assholes who lied about Obamacare on single payer. I'm sure they will tell the truth this time
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You mean the small, homogeneous societies that have us pay their defense? Actual facts or liberal lore?dhdawg said:
or maybe we could trust every other modern countryRaceBannon said:I think we should go ahead and trust the assholes who lied about Obamacare on single payer. I'm sure they will tell the truth this time
Like I said, why anyone would trust the same lying assholes is beyond me -
Trump is honest.RaceBannon said:
You mean the small, homogeneous societies that have us pay their defense? Actual facts or liberal lore?dhdawg said:
or maybe we could trust every other modern countryRaceBannon said:I think we should go ahead and trust the assholes who lied about Obamacare on single payer. I'm sure they will tell the truth this time
Like I said, why anyone would trust the same lying assholes is beyond me -
The ones who enjoy free military protection?dhdawg said:
or maybe we could trust every other modern countryRaceBannon said:I think we should go ahead and trust the assholes who lied about Obamacare on single payer. I'm sure they will tell the truth this time
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I still don't get why they can't just look at every other developed country, do a quick analysis on costs for the government per person and cost to the person against quality of healthcare. Then whichever model is most efficient just copy the damn thing.
