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More Trumped up numbers

ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/06/he-got-up-there-and-lied-his-a-off-carrier-union-leader-on-trumps-big-deal/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.dcf43c2b3c1e

The math just keeps getting worse. Good for those 800 that get to keep their job, but it's like Trump can't help but lie about everything.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    “He said something to the effect, ‘No, we’re not leaving, because Donald Trump promised us that we’re not leaving,’ and I never thought I made that promise,” Trump said. “Not with Carrier. I made it for everybody else. I didn’t make it really for Carrier.”

    In fact, Trump did make that commitment, and it's on video. "They're going to call me and they are going to say 'Mr. President, Carrier has decided to stay in Indiana,'” Trump had said at the April rally. "One hundred percent -- that's what is going to happen."
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    remember though. they aren't actually lies if his supporters believe them
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308438-trump-surrogate-theres-no-such-thing-as-facts
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    RaceBannon said:

    Doogs hate winners

    you mean like obama?
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520
    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dhdawg said:

    remember though. they aren't actually lies if his supporters believe them
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308438-trump-surrogate-theres-no-such-thing-as-facts

    People scream Obama is a liar cause of campaign promises and keeping doctors and shit. Those same people don't think Trump is a liar.

    Awesome.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520
    edited December 2016
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    remember though. they aren't actually lies if his supporters believe them
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308438-trump-surrogate-theres-no-such-thing-as-facts

    People scream Obama is a liar cause of campaign promises and keeping doctors and shit. Those same people don't think Trump is a liar.

    Awesome.
    You seem like a loser
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    greenblood said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    remember though. they aren't actually lies if his supporters believe them
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308438-trump-surrogate-theres-no-such-thing-as-facts

    People scream Obama is a liar cause of campaign promises and keeping doctors and shit. Those same people don't think Trump is a liar.

    Awesome.
    You seem like a loser
    Hurtful
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,429 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
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  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034
    edited December 2016
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    Absolutely wrong. I know, you feel it should be right, so it's OK to make shit up.



    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

    Series Id: LNS11300000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Labor Force Participation Rate
    Labor force status: Civilian labor force participation rate
    Type of data: Percent or rate
    Age: 16 years and over

    image
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,520
    edited December 2016
    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    no

    image
    So lowest in 40 years?
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  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034
    edited December 2016
    greenblood said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    no

    image
    So lowest in 40 years?
    Sure, you can say that. But you have to see from that graph that labor participation rate follows its own course, not based on who is in the White House. It has to do with broader trends like demographics (the baby boomer surge, then early retirement), the influx of women into the workforce, technology, and globalization. Those are things over which presidents, Democrat or Republican, have limited control. It would be just as silly to give Carter credit for the greatest rate of increase in labor participation, or to give Clinton credit for presiding over the period of the highest level of labor participation.
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  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    BearsWiin said:

    greenblood said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    no

    image
    So lowest in 40 years?
    Sure, you can say that. But you have to see from that graph that labor participation rate follows its own course, not based on who is in the White House. It has to do with broader trends like demographics (the baby boomer surge, then early retirement), the influx of women into the workforce, technology, and globalization. Those are things over which presidents, Democrat or Republican, have limited control. It would be just as silly to give Carter credit for the greatest rate of increase in labor participation, or to give Clinton credit for presiding over the period of the highest level of labor participation.
    College enrollment has been steadily increasing during the same time-span as well. Students decrease the labor participation rate too.
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  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,988
    2001400ex said:

    “He said something to the effect, ‘No, we’re not leaving, because Donald Trump promised us that we’re not leaving,’ and I never thought I made that promise,” Trump said. “Not with Carrier. I made it for everybody else. I didn’t make it really for Carrier.”

    In fact, Trump did make that commitment, and it's on video. "They're going to call me and they are going to say 'Mr. President, Carrier has decided to stay in Indiana,'” Trump had said at the April rally. "One hundred percent -- that's what is going to happen."

    It's quite a reach to say the Trump quote in the second paragraph was a commitment to keep every single Carrier job in the US. But either way, this isn't very newsworthy.
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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    Absolutely wrong. I know, you feel it should be right, so it's OK to make shit up.



    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

    Series Id: LNS11300000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Labor Force Participation Rate
    Labor force status: Civilian labor force participation rate
    Type of data: Percent or rate
    Age: 16 years and over

    image
    Kreist.... Woman stayed Home as Housewives pre 1965. Talk about a useless fucking graph.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Trump has saved 800 more jobs than Obama and he hasn't even started yet.

    Didn't Obama preside over the largest increase in private sector jobs?

    But 800 jobs!!!
    presided over lowest labor participation rate.
    Absolutely wrong. I know, you feel it should be right, so it's OK to make shit up.



    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

    Series Id: LNS11300000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Labor Force Participation Rate
    Labor force status: Civilian labor force participation rate
    Type of data: Percent or rate
    Age: 16 years and over

    image
    Kreist.... Woman stayed Home as Housewives pre 1965. Talk about a useless fucking graph stat to use when judging Obama's record.
    FIFY
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Fenderbender123 said:

    2001400ex said:

    “He said something to the effect, ‘No, we’re not leaving, because Donald Trump promised us that we’re not leaving,’ and I never thought I made that promise,” Trump said. “Not with Carrier. I made it for everybody else. I didn’t make it really for Carrier.”

    In fact, Trump did make that commitment, and it's on video. "They're going to call me and they are going to say 'Mr. President, Carrier has decided to stay in Indiana,'” Trump had said at the April rally. "One hundred percent -- that's what is going to happen."

    It's quite a reach to say the Trump quote in the second paragraph was a commitment to keep every single Carrier job in the US. But either way, this isn't very newsworthy.
    You don't get it. Trump has no clue what he even says.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,599 Founders Club
    Obama's jobs

    image
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    Obama's jobs

    image

    For $15 an hour. You sound jealous.
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