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Same sex marriage is settled, abortion isn't

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    This is a good thing.

    One of the underlying reasons I supported Trump was that I knew him being elected would bring certain issues to the forefront. Specifically abortion and the separation of church and state.

    For too long democrats have acted like Roe v Wade could never be overturned. Ignoring that republicans have been chipping away at it for years. Now we get to have the discussion. No more bullshit moves like shutting down Planned Parenthoods by making up bullshit building codes. Their moves will be more open and obvious now. And for the record, I'm totally fine with abortion being illegal. The problem for the pro life side is not that they're wrong, it's that they suck at arguing.

    And for too long it's been left to the "fringe" "whacko" atheists to defend the separation of church and state. I mean those nutters always fighting to keep prayer out schools, all they do is fight these bullshit cases, just let people be. Well, you're going to find out why fighting for the inches is so important. The religious right isn't coming for the pledge of allegiance, that is not their end game. So, when your kid turns up from school with a science book that has a chapter about finding a watch on beach and you know the watch was designed so obviously the universe was hopefully you'll realize that is what atheists have been fighting.

    These issues now take center stage. I think it's hilarious that the left is so worried about Trump. Trump isn't the boogey man, he's not coming to get you. But the right, controlling everything, they are coming.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,545 Founders Club
    People forget that the left wants to run your life as well which is why this country is mired in the bullshit it is.

    And I am not disagreeing on the end game of the right.

    As a man of faith I don't want the government involved at all but plenty do. It's a fact

    I like how Trump got the evangelical vote without being either a real or pretend "religious" guy. We can debate these issues. As of today it sounds like Trump wants to send both issues back to the states to decide, and that would mean 81% of them would keep abortion and gay marriage legal. Who knows what he will think tomorrow.

    Reagan was the guy who married the evangelicals and the GOP and he was a Hollywood guy on his second marriage from California.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    People forget that the left wants to run your life as well which is why this country is mired in the bullshit it is.

    And I am not disagreeing on the end game of the right.

    As a man of faith I don't want the government involved at all but plenty do. It's a fact

    I like how Trump got the evangelical vote without being either a real or pretend "religious" guy. We can debate these issues. As of today it sounds like Trump wants to send both issues back to the states to decide, and that would mean 81% of them would keep abortion and gay marriage legal. Who knows what he will think tomorrow.

    Reagan was the guy who married the evangelicals and the GOP and he was a Hollywood guy on his second marriage from California.

    Without government, we'd have chaos. True free market is bullshit and will tank the country. True socialism is bullshit will tank the country. America is the greatest country in the world because we've found a balance between free market/free thinking/ability to grow and government regulation/clean environment/nice place to live.

    HTH
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    and just what would you know about success or winning?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,545 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    People forget that the left wants to run your life as well which is why this country is mired in the bullshit it is.

    And I am not disagreeing on the end game of the right.

    As a man of faith I don't want the government involved at all but plenty do. It's a fact

    I like how Trump got the evangelical vote without being either a real or pretend "religious" guy. We can debate these issues. As of today it sounds like Trump wants to send both issues back to the states to decide, and that would mean 81% of them would keep abortion and gay marriage legal. Who knows what he will think tomorrow.

    Reagan was the guy who married the evangelicals and the GOP and he was a Hollywood guy on his second marriage from California.

    Without government, we'd have chaos. True free market is bullshit and will tank the country. True socialism is bullshit will tank the country. America is the greatest country in the world because we've found a balance between free market/free thinking/ability to grow and government regulation/clean environment/nice place to live.

    HTH
    Why is this a reply to my post? Its a load of nonsense that has nothing to do with anything
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    People forget that the left wants to run your life as well which is why this country is mired in the bullshit it is.

    And I am not disagreeing on the end game of the right.

    As a man of faith I don't want the government involved at all but plenty do. It's a fact

    I like how Trump got the evangelical vote without being either a real or pretend "religious" guy. We can debate these issues. As of today it sounds like Trump wants to send both issues back to the states to decide, and that would mean 81% of them would keep abortion and gay marriage legal. Who knows what he will think tomorrow.

    Reagan was the guy who married the evangelicals and the GOP and he was a Hollywood guy on his second marriage from California.

    Without government, we'd have chaos. True free market is bullshit and will tank the country. True socialism is bullshit will tank the country. America is the greatest country in the world because we've found a balance between free market/free thinking/ability to grow and government regulation/clean environment/nice place to live.

    HTH
    Why is this a reply to my post? Its a load of nonsense that has nothing to do with anything
    Read for comprehension. You stated you want government out of everything.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    and just what would you know about success or winning?

    My life.





    Other than my time in this cesspool.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,545 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    People forget that the left wants to run your life as well which is why this country is mired in the bullshit it is.

    And I am not disagreeing on the end game of the right.

    As a man of faith I don't want the government involved at all but plenty do. It's a fact

    I like how Trump got the evangelical vote without being either a real or pretend "religious" guy. We can debate these issues. As of today it sounds like Trump wants to send both issues back to the states to decide, and that would mean 81% of them would keep abortion and gay marriage legal. Who knows what he will think tomorrow.

    Reagan was the guy who married the evangelicals and the GOP and he was a Hollywood guy on his second marriage from California.

    Without government, we'd have chaos. True free market is bullshit and will tank the country. True socialism is bullshit will tank the country. America is the greatest country in the world because we've found a balance between free market/free thinking/ability to grow and government regulation/clean environment/nice place to live.

    HTH
    Why is this a reply to my post? Its a load of nonsense that has nothing to do with anything
    Read for comprehension. You stated you want government out of everything.
    No I didn't
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Sledog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Sledog said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    Sledog said:

    Marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a Biblical term I realize that's why you godless heathens attack marriage. Leftist asshats can't redefine our language and traditions just because they want to.

    Just waiting for you to support bigamy and people marrying animals or inanimate objects.

    We don't base law around sky wizards. HTH.
    We base the word marriage on it and the definition. Your two dads can call it anything but marriage. And why would people that don't believe in religion want to be labeled by it?
    Christians didn't invent marriage you stupid fucking prole.
    Religion has defined marriage. It's always been between a man and a woman. Maybe you can show me where sausage sword fighters or rug munchery.com were "married" prior to the current silliness.
    You said it was a Biblical term. Now you're saying "religion"...which is it, dumbass?
    Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous (Hebrews 13:4)."
    The Bible says lying is a sin. Should it be illegal?

    The Bible says coveting is a sin. Should people go to jail if they think "man I wish I had their house" (or football coach, or hot TBS recruit, or whatever).

    The Bible says gossip is a sin. Should we? lock up every lady at the hair salon?

    I believe in the Bible. I support the Bible. I do my best to live by the Bible (but fail on a pretty regular basis). I am interested in exactly when you are going to start pushing for laws to ban all these other sins.

    Or better yet, when you're going to realize that grace > law is basically the entire premise of the New Testament.
    All sins are equal as well.
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