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  • pat_hm
    pat_hm Member Posts: 941
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    7 wins wasn't enough for you?
    10 wins aren't enough for me.
    Then why are you a Washington fan?
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    Derek, snipe this thread.


    Too soon?
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Mods?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    pat_hm said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    7 wins wasn't enough for you?
    10 wins aren't enough for me.
    Then why are you a Washington fan?
    I remember when Washington could win 10 games and pop off.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    CuntWaffle said:

    Derek, snipe this thread.


    Too soon?

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  • pat_hm
    pat_hm Member Posts: 941
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    pat_hm said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    I love the Top 10 Sophomores list. It obviously pulls from a huge sample set of what, 30-40 guys who got significant playing time as freshmen.

    I want to see a Top 10 list of grad assistants next.

    I don't how many kids it pulls from but in this day and age there are WAY more than 30- 40 true freshman playing in college football. Where did you pull that number from? Your ass?? There was probably 40 true freshman who played in the pac 12!!! That's only 3 per team average there smart guy. Good call, bud. Nice effort to attempt to delegitimize this list to look cool in front of your friends.

    I'd love to talk to the fans from Florida State, Bama, Georgia, LSU etc who also have players that made this list to see if they hate on their guys as much as the idiots on this board hate on our freshman. These SEC guys would kill for a talent like Browning. You guys are clueless.
    So there weren't any true freshman at Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Alabama that are covered up by All Americans at their position that played special teams? I'm pretty sure there are many of those guys every fucking year.

    You don't think it's a very real possibility that there were some freshman QB's who were backups and redshirted that are better than Browning?

    You are reaching just as far, If not further with your subjective list.
    I know Calvin Ridley played signicant snaps as a true freshman for Bama. He made the list.

    Who knows if there are better QB that redshirted. All I know is that the talent pool at the position has been shrinking in recent years as is evidenced by the NFL draft. Most quartersbacks bust. Look at recruitinging rankings, vast vast majority never live up to their ranking. Cyler and Lindquist were fucking 4 stars.

    All I know is Browning did play and put together a solid season. I'd take browning with 11 games under his belt than some over hyped 4 star that redshirted. You learn the most when you get thrown in the shit and I NEVER SAID BROWNING DIDNT STRUGGLE. Of course he did, he was a true freshman. But he got better. And will continue To do so with Gaskin.
    Boy Jameis Winston and Mariota sure struggled because they didn't play as true freshmen.

    I share a little of your optimism, but PFF isn't the end all be all. There was an article about how NFL coaches compared their grades with PFF's. The general consensus was that PFF does a pretty good job, but they are often wrong, especially with their QB grades. I would find the link if I wasn't on my phone. You should google and read it if interested.
    Those guys were a bit of an exception. Did Connor Wentz redshirt? I have no idea. Spread is killing the position and I love that Browning is a progression based QB. The majority of college QB's suck.

    I'm not saying PFF is the end all be all. They tell one side of the story. But finishing with a positive grade after your first year playing QB at the college level isn't a discouraging sign in the least.
    Shut the fuck up and win.
    7 wins wasn't enough for you?
    10 wins aren't enough for me.
    Then why are you a Washington fan?
    I remember when Washington could win 10 games and pop off.
    Now we just win Natty's in the offseason with hype articles about our burgeoning young gun slinger. Sad.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Hey guys, Browning looked great against Sac State and Arizona. What more could you ask for?
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  • TheChart
    TheChart Member Posts: 76
    pat_hm said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I think his actual performance fueled the narrative

    Ok. Well I don't think he's played as poorly as people on here make it seem. This list seems to lean more to that narrative based, based solely on objective grades. They charted every snap he took this year. It wasn't just watching a few over thrown deep balls to Jaydon Mickens. PFF focus grades out every play and they love him. So are they wrong?

    And the fuck did people expect from a true freshman?? His numbers were comparable to Goff, Luck and Rosen's true freshman years yet people treat him like Ronnie Fouch. I think it's crazy.
    Free Pub!!!111!
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Browning was one of the more effective deep ball passers in all of FBS last season as his 50.0 percent accuracy on passes targeted 20 yards or more downfield ranks No. 6 among returning FBS quarterbacks.

    Wat?
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