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What I'm hearing re: Jen Cohen

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,220

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

    Are you FS enough to not realize the relationship between wins ➡️ better attendance ➡️ turning budget deficit to budget surplus?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

    Are you FS enough to not realize the relationship between wins ➡️ better attendance ➡️ turning budget deficit to budget surplus?
    No.

    I'm smart enough to realize that the UW AD prioritizes revenue over winning.

    Marinerization.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,220

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

    Are you FS enough to not realize the relationship between wins ➡️ better attendance ➡️ turning budget deficit to budget surplus?
    No.

    I'm smart enough to realize that the UW AD prioritizes revenue over winning.

    Marinerization.
    That may be the case but unlike Marinerization UW has proven they need to win to keep interest ... clear case of abundance
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

    Are you FS enough to not realize the relationship between wins ➡️ better attendance ➡️ turning budget deficit to budget surplus?
    No.

    I'm smart enough to realize that the UW AD prioritizes revenue over winning.

    Marinerization.
    That may be the case but unlike Marinerization UW has proven they need to win to keep interest ... clear case of abundance
    Disagree. Revenue has grown substantially during the mediocre tenure of Scott Woodward.

    Seattle losers love this crap.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I'm always skeptical about giving the assistant credit or blame for what the HC did. Every once in awhile there's a Chip Kelly/Mike Bellotti situation, but those are the exception, not the rule.

    Regardless who negotiated the deal, Pete was Woody's hire, for better or for worse.

    It's possible she turns out to be a decent AD. The smart money's on dumpster fire, though.

    There's a lot of FS here ...

    We don't really know one way or another what was going on in the AD, who was running what, and the like.

    No question that the buck in the AD stopped at Woody but how much he farmed out you'd have to be on the inside to know and few can answer that question.

    The reality is that forget the rest, Cohen's ultimately going to be measured on:

    1) Taking a budget deficit to a surplus --> also known as football being the cash cow

    2) Marketing the shit out of the program to aide in 1) happening

    3) What she ultimately decides to do with Romar when she doesn't have the cover of a budget deficit to hide behind when it comes to firing Romar ... let's be honest here, if the boosters really wanted Romar gone they'd pony up the cash to buy him out.
    The lack of football wins in this list speaks volumes.
    Football wins are implied
    CHRIST.

    Are you FS enough to not realize the relationship between wins ➡️ better attendance ➡️ turning budget deficit to budget surplus?
    No.

    I'm smart enough to realize that the UW AD prioritizes revenue over winning.

    Marinerization.
    That may be the case but unlike Marinerization UW has proven they need to win to keep interest ... clear case of abundance
    but when they can simply applaud the revenue gains from tv tard Larry Scott that had nothing to do with their own work, can they still take credit for it?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,733 Founders Club
    Meek said:

    so what you're hearing is something someone in the AD office sorta leaked to give Jen some street credit with those who don't buy the UW's chronic bullshit approach to hiring for key positions... i'm not buying this hamburger with cheese.

    It's not that at all, but I understand what you're saying. Nor am I saying you should buy it though as I am against the hire.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,733 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    Per a reliable source, Cohen was basically the one who hired Petersen, in spite of Woodward.

    If true... for those inclined like myself to think this was a bad hire born of nepotism, does this alter your opinion?

    So the university is now putting out unarmed sources to try to justify their indefensible hire?
    Not in this case. It was somebody I reached out to just to say hello that I hadn't spoken with in a few months. After I gave my opinion that this was a horrible hire, they countered by saying they thought it was a good hire and told me that tidbit. They are not an employee of the AD.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    How does it feel to sell out, Derek?