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Quasi-Official Iowa Cockus Thread

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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.

    We can never judge the values of other cultures.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club
    My boy Rand got one! WOOF!
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792
    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Jim Gilmore must be ecstatic that he got 12 votes.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
    The us isn't a democracy. Never has been, never will be
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838

    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
    You must be new to America.

    Or wanting a handout.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,523
    topdawgnc said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
    You must be new to America.

    Or wanting a handout.
    abundance to infinitiy
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.

    Bronze medals have consequences
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792

    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
    Reality of a two party system is that the majority of voters will vote for the candidate of their party of choice, regardless of who it is. But to win the electoral college, one side's candidate has to appeal more to centrist/independent voters over the other.

    "Electable" in the sense it's being used now means "able to capture a significant amount centrist/independent voters" in the general election. Trump, Cruz, and Bernie all get questioned on their "electability" because they each have things about them that are too extremely left or right for centrist voters to latch onto. Rubio has less of those concerns than a Trump or Cruz for the GOP. For instance, I'm centrist and would never vote Cruz or Trump, but would definitely consider Rubio.

    In short, democracy is about electing the people who encompass the views and support of the highest % of people, and in this case thats Rubio. Thus making him more "electable."
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,742 Standard Supporter
    NEsnake12 said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.

    Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.
    Reality of a two party system is that the majority of voters will vote for the candidate of their party of choice, regardless of who it is. But to win the electoral college, one side's candidate has to appeal more to centrist/independent voters over the other.

    "Electable" in the sense it's being used now means "able to capture a significant amount centrist/independent voters" in the general election. Trump, Cruz, and Bernie all get questioned on their "electability" because they each have things about them that are too extremely left or right for centrist voters to latch onto. Rubio has less of those concerns than a Trump or Cruz for the GOP. For instance, I'm centrist and would never vote Cruz or Trump, but would definitely consider Rubio.

    In short, democracy is about electing the people who encompass the views and support of the highest % of people, and in this case thats Rubio. Thus making him more "electable."
    In other words, the best of the worst.

    How comforting.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    Seeing that Carson is "taking off the gloves" with respect to Cruz ... I can respect that.

    Interesting little chart about $$$ spent versus vote received: http://media.fyre.co/5jn5Fg3rSmuVLujbQq2S_iowa.ad.spending.vs.votes.v2.xl.png
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,742 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Seeing that Carson is "taking off the gloves" with respect to Cruz ... I can respect that.

    Interesting little chart about $$$ spent versus vote received: http://media.fyre.co/5jn5Fg3rSmuVLujbQq2S_iowa.ad.spending.vs.votes.v2.xl.png

    Christ, in the State of Washington, Jeb could have got a way lower cost-per-dead voter than in Iowa. Pretty sure King County dead people votes are going for less than $250 each these days.


  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club
    The Bern is pulling Hills left. Cruz is no more "extreme" than either one of them. Fuck the middle. That's where road kill lives.

    Choose a side and let's roll
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