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Still doesn't excuse the fact that people should know coffee is hot and not be surprised when it burns them.TurdBuffer said:
Okay, some dumbass had to bring it up, so here you go:2001400ex said:
Holy shit you got destroyed and you don't even realize it. Here's another example. The lady that spilled McDonald's coffee on her and win millions.pawz said:
As always, another pleasant discourse. It's too bad you can't stay on track, this is clearly a hot-button topic for you that may require closure.dflea said:Go fuck yourself - I don't give a fuck what you were referencing.
I'M referencing you being a stupid asshole, and that IS on topic.
My only regret is that I couldn't get you to drop the 'fucking goat' bomb. That would have been a success.
Have another jack-and-coke. Hold the coke.
The point he's making that's clearly lost on you, is that using settlements to show someone was right is fucktarded.
McD's Hot Coffee Facts: 79 y.o. Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while she underwent skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for two years. (Scorched pussy takes awhile to heal.)
Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000. McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices. He argued that all foods hotter than 130 °F (54 °C) constituted a burn hazard, and that restaurants had more pressing dangers to warn about.
Lieback offered to settle the case for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses and lost income. But McDonald’s never offered more than $800, so the case went to trial. Jury awarded 2.86 million. Judge reduced it to 640k. McDonald's appealed & settled case during appeal.
No matter how you feel about the outcome, that's one dumbass corporation begging to have the fuck sued out of it.
And you are illustrating the point. The science on hot things burning you is settled. But people won money in settlements even tho we know that for a fact. -
Will somebody in this thread please sign up for a Microbiology class
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Just dropping in to let you know that this thread is some serious faggotry and should be eradicated via vaccination.
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I'd ask if you knew the difference between 2nd and 3rd degree burns, but it's clear I'd be wasting my time.2001400ex said:
Still doesn't excuse the fact that people should know coffee is hot and not be surprised when it burns them.TurdBuffer said:
Okay, some dumbass had to bring it up, so here you go:2001400ex said:
Holy shit you got destroyed and you don't even realize it. Here's another example. The lady that spilled McDonald's coffee on her and win millions.pawz said:
As always, another pleasant discourse. It's too bad you can't stay on track, this is clearly a hot-button topic for you that may require closure.dflea said:Go fuck yourself - I don't give a fuck what you were referencing.
I'M referencing you being a stupid asshole, and that IS on topic.
My only regret is that I couldn't get you to drop the 'fucking goat' bomb. That would have been a success.
Have another jack-and-coke. Hold the coke.
The point he's making that's clearly lost on you, is that using settlements to show someone was right is fucktarded.
McD's Hot Coffee Facts: 79 y.o. Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while she underwent skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for two years. (Scorched pussy takes awhile to heal.)
Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000. McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices. He argued that all foods hotter than 130 °F (54 °C) constituted a burn hazard, and that restaurants had more pressing dangers to warn about.
Lieback offered to settle the case for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses and lost income. But McDonald’s never offered more than $800, so the case went to trial. Jury awarded 2.86 million. Judge reduced it to 640k. McDonald's appealed & settled case during appeal.
No matter how you feel about the outcome, that's one dumbass corporation begging to have the fuck sued out of it.
And you are illustrating the point. The science on hot things burning you is settled. But people won money in settlements even tho we know that for a fact. -
This is an interesting study. When you add up the autism rate, and the autism spectrum rate, it is roughly equal to the 1:68 we are experiencing in the states.whatshouldicareabout said:
I don't remember how long ago it was, but I posted the Danish MMR study in one of the previous vaccine threads. It should satisfy the outside perspective you requested. Here's the link again: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134pawz said:
I honestly don't recall any of your other poasts outside of this thread.
I'm not wantonly saying "vaccines are bad" either. I'm saying there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest the issue needs another thorough look. And given there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics", I want to see evidence from an entity that doesn't have a billion dollar revenue stream to protect.
For fucks sake, look how "successful" the flu and hpv vaccines have been, and those aren't even being pumped into under developed/developing young people (infants/toddlers).
I haven't responded to your question because the underlying premise is fallacious in that it imputes if someone doesn't have a certain modicum of experience in a field they are not entitled to an opinion.
Since you need a clue on how far out in front of your question I was, @brents (rip) was famous for for saying "if you haven't coached/played college football, you have no right to an opinion on what you see out on the field".
Hope this helps.
What makes this whole thing exceedingly more difficult, is when you read about stories when the parents are sure negative changes happened as a result of inoculation, it not just MMR but a series of inoculations (4-6) in the same day.
You are preaching to the choir. Thats why I think nothing should be sacred when we are searching for answers to the rise in autism rates (among other things, ie opioid addiction, depression/anxiety/adhd, cancer treatments).whatshouldicareabout said:pawz said:
I honestly don't recall any of your other poasts outside of this thread.
I'm not wantonly saying "vaccines are bad" either. I'm saying there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest the issue needs another thorough look. And given there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics", I want to see evidence from an entity that doesn't have a billion dollar revenue stream to protect.
For fucks sake, look how "successful" the flu and hpv vaccines have been, and those aren't even being pumped into under developed/developing young people (infants/toddlers).
I haven't responded to your question because the underlying premise is fallacious in that it imputes if someone doesn't have a certain modicum of experience in a field they are not entitled to an opinion.
Since you need a clue on how far out in front of your question I was, @brents (rip) was famous for for saying "if you haven't coached/played college football, you have no right to an opinion on what you see out on the field".
Hope this helps.
And maybe it's just me, but I don't see the rationale for why it's just vaccines and not all pharmaceuticals or healthcare in general. I mean, take a look at this list: www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm and compare it against numerous other classes of drugs. They're actually pretty safe compared to some of the other things we give people. Or hell, if it's drug safety in general, look at all the opioid overdoses going on around the US, which reached about 25,000 deaths this year.
I think the over-perscription of medication is one of the major problems our society faces.
If people simply worked out for 20 minutes a day, meditated for 20 minutes a day and ate non-processed, vegetable based diets, we would lose the need pharmaceuticals and healthcare at a rate that would be staggering.
I hear your point that $2B is a relative drop in the bucket. But what is more damning and to my point, is that some sort of 'independent' intermediary is determining actual damage occurred and continues to occur for 20+ years. That implies a level of consistency that should be unacceptable without giving parents a full understanding of cost vs benefit.whatshouldicareabout said:
As for brent's logical fallacy, it wasn't so much whether you can have an opinion or not, but how you were interpreting the evidence. For example, the $2 billion in damages that you cited earlier was over a 21 year period paid by every vaccine manufacturer for every type of vaccine. Compare that to Takeda's and Lilly's $9 billion lawsuit over Actos http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/09/business/international/japanese-drug-maker-ordered-to-pay-6-billion-over-cancer-claims.html And that's just one drug from one manufacturer (Lilly was US distributor). I mean, yeah $2 billion seems like a lot, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to healthcare in general.pawz said:
I honestly don't recall any of your other poasts outside of this thread.
I'm not wantonly saying "vaccines are bad" either. I'm saying there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest the issue needs another thorough look. And given there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics", I want to see evidence from an entity that doesn't have a billion dollar revenue stream to protect.
For fucks sake, look how "successful" the flu and hpv vaccines have been, and those aren't even being pumped into under developed/developing young people (infants/toddlers).
I haven't responded to your question because the underlying premise is fallacious in that it imputes if someone doesn't have a certain modicum of experience in a field they are not entitled to an opinion.
Since you need a clue on how far out in front of your question I was, @brents (rip) was famous for for saying "if you haven't coached/played college football, you have no right to an opinion on what you see out on the field".
Hope this helps.
And, IMO, it's surely not consistent enough to compel action by legal means and thus removing the parents inalienable right to choose for their child. (see: california)
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What a coincidence, that's how smallpox and polio were eradicated.pawz said:
If people simply worked out for 20 minutes a day, meditated for 20 minutes a day and ate non-processed, vegetable based diets, we would lose the need pharmaceuticals and healthcare at a rate that would be staggering.
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2 different issues. Pawz is right on the lifestyle stuff for heart disease and the like. Maybe even RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME a real killer in American life.AIRWOLF said:
What a coincidence, that's how smallpox and polio were eradicated.pawz said:
If people simply worked out for 20 minutes a day, meditated for 20 minutes a day and ate non-processed, vegetable based diets, we would lose the need pharmaceuticals and healthcare at a rate that would be staggering.
But not for the stuff we vaccinate for. I lived when there were still a couple of polio kids in our grade school. Not pretty. We got all our shots and were thankful for it.
The live a healthier lifestyle stuff will be a part of Big Brother in a couple of decades when we all have free healthcare and death panels. -
Vaccines have been great for things like polio and the like that are all but eradicated. I don't even have a problem with MMR and others that have been around for a long time.RaceBannon said:
2 different issues. Pawz is right on the lifestyle stuff for heart disease and the like. Maybe even RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME a real killer in American life.AIRWOLF said:
What a coincidence, that's how smallpox and polio were eradicated.pawz said:
If people simply worked out for 20 minutes a day, meditated for 20 minutes a day and ate non-processed, vegetable based diets, we would lose the need pharmaceuticals and healthcare at a rate that would be staggering.
But not for the stuff we vaccinate for. I lived when there were still a couple of polio kids in our grade school. Not pretty. We got all our shots and were thankful for it.
The live a healthier lifestyle stuff will be a part of Big Brother in a couple of decades when we all have free healthcare and death panels.
What I'd like to know more about is the compounding effects of all the neuvo vaccines in the schedule.
In 1983 children would receive 10 vaccines before the age of 6. As of 2013 it's 36 before age 6. -
You must have received 156 to be this FS.pawz said:
Vaccines have been great for things like polio and the like that are all but eradicated. I don't even have a problem with MMR and others that have been around for a long time.RaceBannon said:
2 different issues. Pawz is right on the lifestyle stuff for heart disease and the like. Maybe even RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME a real killer in American life.AIRWOLF said:
What a coincidence, that's how smallpox and polio were eradicated.pawz said:
If people simply worked out for 20 minutes a day, meditated for 20 minutes a day and ate non-processed, vegetable based diets, we would lose the need pharmaceuticals and healthcare at a rate that would be staggering.
But not for the stuff we vaccinate for. I lived when there were still a couple of polio kids in our grade school. Not pretty. We got all our shots and were thankful for it.
The live a healthier lifestyle stuff will be a part of Big Brother in a couple of decades when we all have free healthcare and death panels.
What I'd like to know more about is the compounding effects of all the neuvo vaccines in the schedule.
In 1983 children would receive 10 vaccines before the age of 6. As of 2013 it's 36 before age 6. -
We already see big brother leading us to a healthier future with all the CDC quit smoking ads.
