Rutgers - W Idaho - W Portland St - W @Arizona - W Stanford - W @Oregon - L Oregon St - W @ Utah - W @ Cal - W USC - W ASU - L @WSU - W
10-2.... HELLO
So, you don't think CP & SmithFS will find a way to fuck up 2-3 winnable games rather easily? Maybe I'm a little too pessimistic.
Idaho, PSU, Rutgers, Arizona, OSU, Cal will all suck HARD next year. That is 6 wins.
The next level are OK teams: Utah, ASU, WSU. I have us losing to ASU just because that seems like something that would happen. Utah loses their entire offense (Their offense was Wilson, Booker and Covey). WSU will be tuff because it is their super bowl and we are due for a loss, but I think we pull it off. 8 wins.
Next level are good teams with talent: USC, Oregon. USC comes to UW in November in what feels like the first time in forever and their schedule is BRUTAL. Win. I actually think this might be the year we beat Oregon, but I'll believe it when I see it. 9 wins.
Really good teams with talent: Stanford is losing a great deal of talent, but they are still Stanford. Getting them early with a new QB will be helpful and their front 7 is losing a ton. 10 wins.
I would put Arizona at the top of your OK teams list partly because they will be decent and partly because ASU, WSU, and Utah are going to suck.
Arizona has two QBs better than most other team's starters, a stable of RBs and slot ninja WRs, and a good OL. Rich rods offense will, as usual, put up a lot of points.
Their defense couldn't possibly be any worse than 2015. Losing Scooby doesn't hurt since he barely played anyways. They should be better and deeper up front and if Yates instills a more aggressive scheme that should help cover up the deficiencies in the secondary.
Rutgers - W Idaho - W Portland St - W @Arizona - W Stanford - W @Oregon - L Oregon St - W @ Utah - W @ Cal - W USC - W ASU - L @WSU - W
10-2.... HELLO
So, you don't think CP & SmithFS will find a way to fuck up 2-3 winnable games rather easily? Maybe I'm a little too pessimistic.
It's in their DNA to lose one winnable game. Flip ASU and Stanford, and you still get 10 wins, but they'll dump one they shouldn't - probably USC - and win 9. I hope I'm wrong but JS's play-calling remains sub-par and error-prone.
I'll just be happy if they don't have Browning drop back to pass 62 times vs. calling only 24 run plays.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
People love finding patterns. It's ingrained in our psychology.
Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
Stanford is losing 8th year senior Hogan and some offensive lineman but McCaffrey is still around. They've been developing their backups. We've got them at home. Oregon will still pose a threat on the road but they are slowly decaying. They are beatable unlike the Mariota seasons. Not that they were a threat (except at husky stadium) but Cal is losing Goff. The North hasn't been this wide open in years and 10 wins should be the floor for the season.
There are zero reasons to lower expectations. None. The excuse well has dried out. I'm sure the doogs will conjure up some new ones we've never even believed were possible but it's make or break. UW brings back everyone. If Petersen can't get us to 10 wins with that schedule then we are fucked. Time to burn it all down and start over. Again. We all want 10 wins. But there becomes a point after 16 straight years of failure where you begin to believe you'll never see it.
My initial argument wasn't articulated as well as I would have liked. It might have been the whiskey. Or maybe the spliffs. Regardless, the point I was trying to make is there are only so many elite coaches out there. They don't grow on trees. Half of the NFL gets shit canned every season. Elite level coaches are more elusive than people think. Michigan knocked it out of the park so everyone else wonders why they can't have the same. It's simple. Those guys don't exist.
After the Sabans, Urbans and Harbaughs it starts to drop off. The next tier is Dantoni, Patterson, Stoops. Throw in Les Miles & Jimbo. But then who? Shaw? Briles? It gets ugly very quick.
For the record I still believe in Petersen. I think he has the ship heading in the right direction. There are signs that lead me to believe are building an actual program that has the foundation to sustain success. I like that Washington had the best defense in the pac12. They were competitive in every game except Stanford which we were never going to win. We won't be breaking in any more true freshman at key positions. There are reasons to be optimistic. But until he takes the program into the double digit win category we'll never secure the talent we need to win a rose bowl. It'll be Stanford vs Michigan every year while we're stuck in Tulsa playing the 6th place team from Conference USA.
But if we can get to 10 this season it will snowball. We'll stop losing these head to head battles for recruits. It's all there for the taking. This is a program defining season. Sink or swim. Stay forever mediocre or climb to the top of the mountain and raise the Washington flag.
And I was around during the Astro Turf, when we used to compete for Rose Bowls. When your entire weekend was ruined if we lost. I miss those days.
Rutgers - W Idaho - W Portland St - W @Arizona - W Stanford - W @Oregon - L Oregon St - W @ Utah - W @ Cal - W USC - W ASU - L @WSU - W
10-2.... HELLO
So, you don't think CP & SmithFS will find a way to fuck up 2-3 winnable games rather easily? Maybe I'm a little too pessimistic.
Idaho, PSU, Rutgers, Arizona, OSU, Cal will all suck HARD next year. That is 6 wins.
The next level are OK teams: Utah, ASU, WSU. I have us losing to ASU just because that seems like something that would happen. Utah loses their entire offense (Their offense was Wilson, Booker and Covey). WSU will be tuff because it is their super bowl and we are due for a loss, but I think we pull it off. 8 wins.
Next level are good teams with talent: USC, Oregon. USC comes to UW in November in what feels like the first time in forever and their schedule is BRUTAL. Win. I actually think this might be the year we beat Oregon, but I'll believe it when I see it. 9 wins.
Really good teams with talent: Stanford is losing a great deal of talent, but they are still Stanford. Getting them early with a new QB will be helpful and their front 7 is losing a ton. 10 wins.
We're not beating Stanford. 9 wins plus the bowel.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
People love finding patterns. It's ingrained in our psychology.
Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
We will be big favorites in that game.
I didn't find a pattern. They kick the shit out of us every year. It's a fact.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
People love finding patterns. It's ingrained in our psychology.
Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
We will be big favorites in that game.
I didn't find a pattern. They kick the shit out of us every year. It's a fact.
Who is "they"? " Us"?
If I flip a quarter and it comes up tails 10 in a row is it more likely to be tails on the 11th flip?
The only really tough game is Stanford, which is at home, and they lose a lot of starters. Oregon's slide continues. Chest and I called it.
I'm still going to say nine until this team can prove itself in close games. That hasn't happened enough.
Would I accept 10-3 including a Holiday Bowl win over Iowa? Yes but that's not satisfying.
If the D is great again, and the passing game opens up, I'll be satisfied with 10-3 because that will mean the offense isn't killing its own drives all season, and crossing the double-digit wins threshold bolsters recruiting.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
People love finding patterns. It's ingrained in our psychology.
Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
We will be big favorites in that game.
I didn't find a pattern. They kick the shit out of us every year. It's a fact.
Who is "they"? " Us"?
If I flip a quarter and it comes up tails 10 in a row is it more likely to be tails on the 11th flip?
Yes "us."
I know I invest more emotionally than some of the d-bags.
Let's go through the games....wins in boldRutgers, Idaho, Portland State, Stanford, Oregon State, USC and Arizona State.
They are going to win 5 road games? No fing way.
Here are the road games....wins in bold.
Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Cal, WSU
I see 8 wins. They have to beat Utah on the road and either USC or Arizona State at home to get to 10.
I don't see it.
ASU sucks, Utah sucks, Oregon sucks, USC is a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
There isn't a single team on the schedule that we will be big underdogs to. Stanford will likely be the best team on the schedule but we get them at home.
We lose one great player from a team that finished top 15 in the nation in SRS. The last time we were in a similar situation of such little talent graduating was 2012-2013 and that 2013 team could have won the conference with better coaching and a TE that gave a fuck (and we were way better in 2015 than 2012 according to SRS.)
If we have a real coaching staff this time we will win 10 games AT MINIMUM next year.
I understand this....but I don't think we've beaten ASU since 2000. I don't care if they suck or not. Oregon is a loss until proven otherwise. Utah sucks but that is a Peterman fuck up game if I have ever seen one.
People love finding patterns. It's ingrained in our psychology.
Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
We will be big favorites in that game.
I didn't find a pattern. They kick the shit out of us every year. It's a fact.
Who is "they"? " Us"?
If I flip a quarter and it comes up tails 10 in a row is it more likely to be tails on the 11th flip?
Yes "us."
I know I invest more emotionally than some of the d-bags.
The point is there is nothing in common among all those losses other than the fans and the names on the jerseys.
So us is UW fans. Them is ASU fans. Nobody on either team or staff GAF about this streak and it doesn't affect the game planning in any way.
PAC is in major transition next year ... it's all sitting there for the Dawgs to have a strong year.
I figure that one way or another we'll split the Stanford/Oregon back to back and we'll be riding too high and full of just enough confidence to piss away one of the USC/Arizona St games (see 1990 piss job against UCLA).
This team is one year away IMO from being on the national stage ... but it's good enough to win the North and maybe conference next year.
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Rick or Ty losing to ASU has nothing to do with 2016.
Heck CP losing to them in 2014 has little to do with it. Almost all the starters on both sides in that game will be gone.
It sucks for the fans but there is no psychological wall preventing us from beating ASU. It just hasn't happened.
We will be big favorites in that game.
Stanford is losing 8th year senior Hogan and some offensive lineman but McCaffrey is still around. They've been developing their backups. We've got them at home. Oregon will still pose a threat on the road but they are slowly decaying. They are beatable unlike the Mariota seasons. Not that they were a threat (except at husky stadium) but Cal is losing Goff. The North hasn't been this wide open in years and 10 wins should be the floor for the season.
There are zero reasons to lower expectations. None. The excuse well has dried out. I'm sure the doogs will conjure up some new ones we've never even believed were possible but it's make or break. UW brings back everyone. If Petersen can't get us to 10 wins with that schedule then we are fucked. Time to burn it all down and start over. Again. We all want 10 wins. But there becomes a point after 16 straight years of failure where you begin to believe you'll never see it.
My initial argument wasn't articulated as well as I would have liked. It might have been the whiskey. Or maybe the spliffs. Regardless, the point I was trying to make is there are only so many elite coaches out there. They don't grow on trees. Half of the NFL gets shit canned every season. Elite level coaches are more elusive than people think. Michigan knocked it out of the park so everyone else wonders why they can't have the same. It's simple. Those guys don't exist.
After the Sabans, Urbans and Harbaughs it starts to drop off. The next tier is Dantoni, Patterson, Stoops. Throw in Les Miles & Jimbo. But then who? Shaw? Briles? It gets ugly very quick.
For the record I still believe in Petersen. I think he has the ship heading in the right direction. There are signs that lead me to believe are building an actual program that has the foundation to sustain success. I like that Washington had the best defense in the pac12. They were competitive in every game except Stanford which we were never going to win. We won't be breaking in any more true freshman at key positions. There are reasons to be optimistic. But until he takes the program into the double digit win category we'll never secure the talent we need to win a rose bowl. It'll be Stanford vs Michigan every year while we're stuck in Tulsa playing the 6th place team from Conference USA.
But if we can get to 10 this season it will snowball. We'll stop losing these head to head battles for recruits. It's all there for the taking. This is a program defining season. Sink or swim. Stay forever mediocre or climb to the top of the mountain and raise the Washington flag.
And I was around during the Astro Turf, when we used to compete for Rose Bowls. When your entire weekend was ruined if we lost. I miss those days.
If I flip a quarter and it comes up tails 10 in a row is it more likely to be tails on the 11th flip?
I'm still going to say nine until this team can prove itself in close games. That hasn't happened enough.
Would I accept 10-3 including a Holiday Bowl win over Iowa? Yes but that's not satisfying.
I know I invest more emotionally than some of the d-bags.
So us is UW fans. Them is ASU fans. Nobody on either team or staff GAF about this streak and it doesn't affect the game planning in any way.
just channeling my inner @TeqFS.
Or is it the win against 4- loss WSU???
Axing for a friend.
script much?
9-3 plus the shit bowl. 10-3
I figure that one way or another we'll split the Stanford/Oregon back to back and we'll be riding too high and full of just enough confidence to piss away one of the USC/Arizona St games (see 1990 piss job against UCLA).
This team is one year away IMO from being on the national stage ... but it's good enough to win the North and maybe conference next year.