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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,210
    haie said:

    But I thought Woodward wouldn't feel fulfilled until the football team makes the playoffs and the basketball team makes the final four?

    Looks like he won't find aTm very fulfilling
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,750

    6.9 seconds start now.

    The Aggie money guys don't fuck around. Woody better have a golden parachute.

    Weren't you the one saying those Tejas BIG BOYS would never hire Woodward?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,903 Founders Club
    Mosster47 said:

    Disagree on Rich Rod. That was hiring Ty after he failed at Notre Dame. And now RR is flailing at Arizona.

    That being said, hiring a football coach is a crap shoot. If this guy is a big football booster type then you give hi a look

    Not everything in the world is comparable to Willingham.
    I didn't say everything in the world is. This is a direct comparison though

    Coach has some minor success at a lower major school, gets hired by a big time program and shits the bed and gets fired.

    Gets hired by another school right after being fired. No real half brain would have gone for that. Oh, and he sucks. Not 0-12 suck but he sucks

    Minor success? 60-26 overall, 34-14 conference, four conference titles, and two BCS bowl wins.

    What the fuck is regular success? You realize there is only one Nick Saban and one Urban Meyer right? Even Nick Saban thinks it's FS to compare coaches to Nick Saban.

    You're literally losing your shit.
    Losers make excuses. Winners win. I'm not surprised that doogs would love Rich Rod. Or wildcat fans.

    Ty didn't get a fair shake at ND either according to doogs. And he won at Stanford which was tougher than the third rate league WV played in.

    I boil things down because doogs need to write volumes of bullshit to cover for losers.

    Hope this helps
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,903 Founders Club

    Disagree on Rich Rod. That was hiring Ty after he failed at Notre Dame. And now RR is flailing at Arizona.

    That being said, hiring a football coach is a crap shoot. If this guy is a big football booster type then you give hi a look

    Not everything in the world is comparable to Willingham.
    I didn't say everything in the world is. This is a direct comparison though

    Coach has some minor success at a lower major school, gets hired by a big time program and shits the bed and gets fired.

    Gets hired by another school right after being fired. No real half brain would have gone for that. Oh, and he sucks. Not 0-12 suck but he sucks
    Anyone who actually paid attention to the Rodriguez fiasco in Michigan knows he didn't get a fair shake. He was marked from the start, and his spread offense was not a good fit for the big money donors who insisted on a pro-style offense for the Wolverines. There is absolutely no comparison to be had with Willingham's tenure at Notre Dame, where he was a self-inflicted disaster from the beginning.

    I know you like to boil every situation down to easily digestible comparisons that the lowest common denominators on this board can actually understand, but you're way off base here. Again.
    You mean national coach of the year at ND Ty? Get your facts straight. Rich Rod sucked at Michigan. Great excuses as always.

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  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
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    This makes me insanely happy!!!!!!!
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,732 Founders Club
    Rich Rod sucks and fucked up by not taking advantage of backing into the P12 CG last year.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    I know Jen Cohen, Jen Cohen is tuff. But if we hire her we should just finally admit publically that we don't care about winning or changing our bullshit athletic fucking department.

    For fucks sake.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
    Romar, without the help of your staff, please draw an inbounds play. . . . . . .
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    That's what I thought, door. ass. out.
    kh83 said:

    Side bonus - new AD can D.A.O. Romar, with no prior connections and wanting to get "his guy" in.

  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
    If Jen Cohen gets the gig, I will set my season tickets on fucking fire.

    She'll set up some ticket special with Doogman and take a cut of the proceeds.

    I know Jen Cohen, Jen Cohen is tuff. But if we hire her we should just finally admit publically that we don't care about winning or changing our bullshit athletic fucking department.

    For fucks sake.

  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Mosster47 said:

    Disagree on Rich Rod. That was hiring Ty after he failed at Notre Dame. And now RR is flailing at Arizona.

    That being said, hiring a football coach is a crap shoot. If this guy is a big football booster type then you give hi a look

    Not everything in the world is comparable to Willingham.
    I didn't say everything in the world is. This is a direct comparison though

    Coach has some minor success at a lower major school, gets hired by a big time program and shits the bed and gets fired.

    Gets hired by another school right after being fired. No real half brain would have gone for that. Oh, and he sucks. Not 0-12 suck but he sucks

    Minor success? 60-26 overall, 34-14 conference, four conference titles, and two BCS bowl wins.

    What the fuck is regular success? You realize there is only one Nick Saban and one Urban Meyer right? Even Nick Saban thinks it's FS to compare coaches to Nick Saban.

    You're literally losing your shit.
    Losers make excuses. Winners win. I'm not surprised that doogs would love Rich Rod. Or wildcat fans.

    Ty didn't get a fair shake at ND either according to doogs. And he won at Stanford which was tougher than the third rate league WV played in.

    I boil things down because doogs need to write volumes of bullshit to cover for losers.

    Hope this helps
    Ty won at Stanford but Rich Rod is flailing at Arizona?

    55% vs. 62%.

    This isn't a good look for you.
  • DonaldTrump
    DonaldTrump Member Posts: 53
    Condoleezza Rice.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,210
    C. Fetters, Esquire
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,210
  • DonaldTrump
    DonaldTrump Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2016

    Disagree on Rich Rod. That was hiring Ty after he failed at Notre Dame. And now RR is flailing at Arizona.

    That being said, hiring a football coach is a crap shoot. If this guy is a big football booster type then you give hi a look

    Not everything in the world is comparable to Willingham.
    Hillary is.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Ivanka. Serious Golfer.

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    So you're saying everything IS comparable to Ty?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I know Jen Cohen, Jen Cohen is tuff. But if we hire her we should just finally admit publically that we don't care about winning or changing our bullshit athletic fucking department.

    For fucks sake.

    Too Jewish
  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    Woody knows JFF ain't they're anymore rite?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    And people were wondering today why John wouldn't get off of his phone between games today ...
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Disagree on Rich Rod. That was hiring Ty after he failed at Notre Dame. And now RR is flailing at Arizona.

    That being said, hiring a football coach is a crap shoot. If this guy is a big football booster type then you give hi a look

    Not everything in the world is comparable to Willingham.
    I didn't say everything in the world is. This is a direct comparison though

    Coach has some minor success at a lower major school, gets hired by a big time program and shits the bed and gets fired.

    Gets hired by another school right after being fired. No real half brain would have gone for that. Oh, and he sucks. Not 0-12 suck but he sucks
    Anyone who actually paid attention to the Rodriguez fiasco in Michigan knows he didn't get a fair shake. He was marked from the start, and his spread offense was not a good fit for the big money donors who insisted on a pro-style offense for the Wolverines. There is absolutely no comparison to be had with Willingham's tenure at Notre Dame, where he was a self-inflicted disaster from the beginning.

    I know you like to boil every situation down to easily digestible comparisons that the lowest common denominators on this board can actually understand, but you're way off base here. Again.
    I paid attention to Rich Rod in Michigan, mainly because my in-laws are alumni.

    He shit the bed with Michigan. Plain and simple.

    There was a foundation there, and he blew up to bring in his own guys and build a run and gun spread offense. He ran off good players ... and even let one big name go to tOSU.

    Also, if you look at his time at WVU ... without Pat White he was at best an 8-4 coach.

    The Duck is happy to point out Peterman's biggest success was with Moore, but he thinks Rich Rod is all of that.

    Rich Rod wanted the hell out of Arizona because he will be fired next year.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,083
    edited January 2016
    digits said:

    6.9 seconds start now.

    The Aggie money guys don't fuck around. Woody better have a golden parachute.

    Weren't you the one saying those Tejas BIG BOYS would never hire Woodward?
    I don't believe that's what I said. I said he wouldn't last. 6.9 seconds if you are literal motherfucker, so let me know when the clock starts ticking.

    They will fuck him raw. And smile about it.

    Texas Forevah!

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Pepsi is pretty much dialed in here ... although if Jen Cohen is hired I don't think that we'll even go through the motions of hiring a search firm.

    First time ADs really shouldn't be at the UW ... this would be the 2nd straight. This is not a training wheels kind of job.

    Hiring Cohen in my mind basically confirms the budget issues that have been rumored in the Athletic Department and really aren't all that shocking given the poor attendance for football this year and basketball the last few years. Since the UW AD has never been supported by having the kind of whale donators that you see so often in the SEC, Big 12, etc., when we're light in Joe Alumni's support, it creates problems. It's a strong indicator in my mind why Romar's got so much job security (when he shouldn't) because we don't have the means in place to cover his buyout.

    The joke of the matter in all of this though is that what is needed is an experienced AD that really knows how to mobilize a base and turn around the budget deficit. It takes money to make money.

    The other big issue that Pepsi brings up that is 100% true is that the AD needs a strong overhaul, particularly with regard to the marketing of the program as well as in-game presentation. From the surveys that have been sent out this year, it's clear that the AD realizes there is a problem but the general sense is that there aren't a lot of answers or solutions coming from within (and that's not surprising given that they've had to resort to sending out the surveys and that it ever got to that point). It would IMO be very difficult for Cohen to take over the lead spot in the AD and make all the moves necessary given the familiarity and closeness with the program. She may make some changes but it will likely only be a fraction of what is needed and moreover there's always the question of what kind of buy in that she would get from the department as a whole from those that either wanted other people or even the job themselves.

    The reality is that the problems in the UW AD start with the current administration as a whole but also extends to the alumni/donor base as well. It's really the #1 priority for the sports programs at this point.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    I expect a downgrade. We are going to hire some transgender bulldyke.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,467 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Pepsi is pretty much dialed in here ...

    Half-pregnant?
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Hiring Cohen in my mind basically confirms the budget issues that have been rumored in the Athletic Department and really aren't all that shocking given the poor attendance for football this year and basketball the last few years. Since the UW AD has never been supported by having the kind of whale donators that you see so often in the SEC, Big 12, etc., when we're light in Joe Alumni's support, it creates problems. It's a strong indicator in my mind why Romar's got so much job security (when he shouldn't) because we don't have the means in place to cover his buyout.

    The joke of the matter in all of this though is that what is needed is an experienced AD that really knows how to mobilize a base and turn around the budget deficit. It takes money to make money.

    The other big issue that Pepsi brings up that is 100% true is that the AD needs a strong overhaul, particularly with regard to the marketing of the program as well as in-game presentation. From the surveys that have been sent out this year, it's clear that the AD realizes there is a problem but the general sense is that there aren't a lot of answers or solutions coming from within (and that's not surprising given that they've had to resort to sending out the surveys and that it ever got to that point). It would IMO be very difficult for Cohen to take over the lead spot in the AD and make all the moves necessary given the familiarity and closeness with the program. She may make some changes but it will likely only be a fraction of what is needed and moreover there's always the question of what kind of buy in that she would get from the department as a whole from those that either wanted other people or even the job themselves.

    The reality is that the problems in the UW AD start with the current administration as a whole but also extends to the alumni/donor base as well. It's really the #1 priority for the sports programs at this point.

    Wow. After reading that I'm worried Woodward leaving is going to be a jumping from the frying pan into the fire type situation.

    If money is an issue, is there a viable economical alternative to hiring someone internal? I know we're afraid of UW being anyone's training wheels, but wouldn't it be better to get some hungry, ambitious individual from a smaller school that would at least bring in some fresh ideas?