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Oregon better grab Chip Kelly right now, or else be Damned to Helfrich

Hardcore_HuskyHardcore_Husky Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 304 Swaye's Wigwam
edited January 2016 in Hardcore Husky Board

imageOregon better grab Chip Kelly right now, or else be Damned to Helfrich

Derek Johnson has a warning for Duck fans, after Oregon's epic loss to TCU on Saturday night.

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  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,085 Founders Club
    I read it.

    A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise. ;)
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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,941 Founders Club
    PurpleBaze said:

    I read it.

    A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise. ;)

    I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,941 Founders Club
    PurpleBaze said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    PurpleBaze said:

    I read it.

    A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise. ;)

    I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
    I figured you wrote it quickly. I'm just being my jackass self.
    I usually hold myself to a high standard.
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  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,454 Swaye's Wigwam
    Ducks probably have as good a shot at getting him back as they do Brian Kelly.

    Or Brian Kelly.
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  • AEBAEB Member Posts: 2,985
    What I'm very certain of is Chip has zero interest in returning to Oregon. He couldn't wait to leave.

    What I'm wildly speculative about is he is interested in staying in the NFL and would rather not return to college.
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  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,768 Swaye's Wigwam
    DerekJohnson said:

    PurpleBaze said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    PurpleBaze said:

    I read it.

    A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise. ;)

    I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
    I figured you wrote it quickly. I'm just being my jackass self.
    I usually hold myself to a high standard.
    Except for this place where regulars are lucky to be able to string 2 coherent sentences together
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  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,572 Founders Club
    Where's Shawn Alexander and the NAACP protecting DP?
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  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,085 Founders Club
    LoneStarDawg said:

    Where's Shawn Alexander and the NAACP protecting DP?

    Shaun Alexander likes being DP'ed.
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  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    @AZDuck true?!?!?!?
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  • VegasdawgVegasdawg Member Posts: 370
    I read several accounts that said Kelly loves it out East and has no desire to coach at the college level. He made a bundle of dough off the Eagles and, welll, he has already lived where inbreeding is considered artsy.
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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    Ducks will be back.

    The conference sucks too bad for them not to be.
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  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,308 Swaye's Wigwam
    It's okay if Oregon gets Chip because a texas school no one cares about got a fiesta bowl victory out of it.
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  • NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,735
    edited January 2016
    topdawgnc said:

    Ducks will be back.

    The conference sucks too bad for them not to be.

    No fucking way. If History has taught us 1 thing that is college sports goes in cycles. Miami is down, Michigan was down, Ohio state was down, fuck even Kentucky basketball was down. That bowl loss was embarrassing if anything and should hurt recruiting
    Oregon and Stanford will return to earth
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  • doogvilledoogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,220 Swaye's Wigwam
    Oregon has already returned to earth. A Utah clownstop and loss to the cuogs. Welcome to the dreck!
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  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,237 Standard Supporter
    Agreed. Better to focus on UW getting better to hasten Oregon's decline.

    Oregon clearly doesn't have capable back-ups to step in at QB and C. They hit free agency and brought in VAJ and Hegarty but both got hurt in the bowl game and Oregon crumpled. Most damning is that TCU didn't even get Boykin for a half and their starting center was out too but they found a way to win.

    I like Oregon's RBs and WRs but I'm guessing their OL will take a step back in 2016 and that will put more pressure on their new transfer QB. I doubt he'll be as slippery as VAJ which means more sacks for the new QB rather than VAJ ducking / spinning before throwing a bomb.

    Probably worse though is that their D loses all of their above average players (especially Buckner) except for Charles Nelson. Mondeaux could be good as a starter next year (maybe they'll have a guy like Greg Gaines come out of nowhere).

    Tequilla said:

    1) Why warn Oregon about their impending "doom"

    2) If it wasn't already obvious to Oregon fans, supporters, donors, AD, and Uncle Phil that Slingblade wasn't the right guy, they're entering Pat Haden territory

    3) The idea that people have of handing the ball to the same RB 30-40x per game week in and week out isn't consistent with the way that football is played today and borders on dinosaur thinking



    5) To say that Oregon should have just run the football isn't paying attention to what actually happened in the game. Comments that people make that are over generalizations about what a coach should do acting like he shouldn't do that is one of my pet peeves and really fucking bothers me. It's fine to play arm chair QB, but get your facts straight when you do so versus just popping off just because something didn't work out. Oregon's drives in the 2nd half are as follows:

    Drive #1:

    1st down: Run Freeman for 6 yards
    2nd down: Fumbled snap for -20 yards
    3rd down: Run Freeman for 3 yards

    Drive #2:

    Fumbled Kickoff

    Drive #3:

    1st Down: Freeman run for 6 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman run for 4 yards, First Down
    1st Down: Freeman run for 8 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman run for 6 yards, First Down
    1st Down: Freeman run for 4 yards
    2nd Down: Benoit run for 2 yards
    3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards

    Drive #4:

    1st Down: Lockie pass to Addison for -1 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman for 4 yards
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete

    Drive #5:

    1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
    2nd Down: Lockie incomplete
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete

    Drive #6:

    Short drive to run out the clock

    Drive #7, First Overtime:

    1st Down: Freeman for 5 yards
    2nd Down: Lockie for 1 yard
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
    4th Down: Lockie pass to Freeman for 17 yards
    1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
    2nd Down: Freeman for 1 yard, TD

    Drive #8, Second Overtime:

    1st Down: Lockie incomplete
    2nd Down: Nelson for no gain
    3rd Down: Lockie to Addison for -2 yards

    Drive #9, Third Overtime:

    1st Down: Lockie incomplete
    2nd Down: Freeman for 8 yards
    3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
    4th Down: Lockie incomplete

    By my count, Oregon ran 29 meaningful snaps in the 2nd half. Of those 29, Freeman got the ball either as a runner or receiver 14 of those 29 plays with 3 of the 29 plays fumbled snaps that may or may not have gone to Freeman. The reality is that Oregon's offense with Lockie all year sucked in so many ways largely driven by the fact that they didn't trust anything in the passing game and therefore turned to the RBs (because they didn't trust Lockie to run) ... and defenses knew it. I don't care how talented you are, when teams don't have to respect areas of other teams and can make them one dimensional, they tend to be fairly easy to contain. And anybody that has paid an ounce of attention to TCU's maligned defense this year, this has been the case at Oklahoma once Mayfield was injured, against Baylor as soon as the weather got as shitty as I've ever experienced at a game rendering the passing game useless, and then last night when they didn't have to respect Lockie's ability to beat them with his arm.

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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,546 Founders Club
    Chip is never coming back.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Tequilla said:

    1) Why warn Oregon about their impending "doom"

    2) If it wasn't already obvious to Oregon fans, supporters, donors, AD, and Uncle Phil that Slingblade wasn't the right guy, they're entering Pat Haden territory

    3) The idea that people have of handing the ball to the same RB 30-40x per game week in and week out isn't consistent with the way that football is played today and borders on dinosaur thinking



    5) To say that Oregon should have just run the football isn't paying attention to what actually happened in the game. Comments that people make that are over generalizations about what a coach should do acting like he shouldn't do that is one of my pet peeves and really fucking bothers me. It's fine to play arm chair QB, but get your facts straight when you do so versus just popping off just because something didn't work out. Oregon's drives in the 2nd half are as follows:

    Drive #1:

    1st down: Run Freeman for 6 yards
    2nd down: Fumbled snap for -20 yards
    3rd down: Run Freeman for 3 yards

    Drive #2:

    Fumbled Kickoff

    Drive #3:

    1st Down: Freeman run for 6 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman run for 4 yards, First Down
    1st Down: Freeman run for 8 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman run for 6 yards, First Down
    1st Down: Freeman run for 4 yards
    2nd Down: Benoit run for 2 yards
    3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards

    Drive #4:

    1st Down: Lockie pass to Addison for -1 yards
    2nd Down: Freeman for 4 yards
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete

    Drive #5:

    1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
    2nd Down: Lockie incomplete
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete

    Drive #6:

    Short drive to run out the clock

    Drive #7, First Overtime:

    1st Down: Freeman for 5 yards
    2nd Down: Lockie for 1 yard
    3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
    4th Down: Lockie pass to Freeman for 17 yards
    1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
    2nd Down: Freeman for 1 yard, TD

    Drive #8, Second Overtime:

    1st Down: Lockie incomplete
    2nd Down: Nelson for no gain
    3rd Down: Lockie to Addison for -2 yards

    Drive #9, Third Overtime:

    1st Down: Lockie incomplete
    2nd Down: Freeman for 8 yards
    3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
    4th Down: Lockie incomplete

    By my count, Oregon ran 29 meaningful snaps in the 2nd half. Of those 29, Freeman got the ball either as a runner or receiver 14 of those 29 plays with 3 of the 29 plays fumbled snaps that may or may not have gone to Freeman. The reality is that Oregon's offense with Lockie all year sucked in so many ways largely driven by the fact that they didn't trust anything in the passing game and therefore turned to the RBs (because they didn't trust Lockie to run) ... and defenses knew it. I don't care how talented you are, when teams don't have to respect areas of other teams and can make them one dimensional, they tend to be fairly easy to contain. And anybody that has paid an ounce of attention to TCU's maligned defense this year, this has been the case at Oklahoma once Mayfield was injured, against Baylor as soon as the weather got as shitty as I've ever experienced at a game rendering the passing game useless, and then last night when they didn't have to respect Lockie's ability to beat them with his arm.

    But still.
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