Matt Calkins: Why the Huskies need Lorenzo Romar
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Pretty sad when you have to qualify his "best" achievement.Gladstone said:Rebuilding the fence. Mostly.
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So you're killing Petersen after 25 months and two seasons, albeit disappointing seasons, but Romar, who hasn't made a tournament in five years is better somehow?ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
At least give Petersen next year before you start putting him under fucking Romar. If he's 6-6 and in some crap bowl again, fine. He's definitely another Boise CC fraud. Romar has done less with more than any other Pac 12 coach I can think of....maybe Lavin is close...and I've been watching the conference since 1987 or so. -
DependsTequilla said:There's more good than bad with what Pete has done ... he hasn't been perfect the last 2 years for sure. He could have perhaps won a few more games by compromising his long term vision. In the end, does it really matter given the last 2 years weren't conference winning caliber teams given the QB play?
If there are more 7-5 or 8-4 seasons, I'll hold it against him.
If they start beating Oregon and at least winning the North, I won't. -
I place too much emphasis on certain life skills like reading to have been a Viking.ThomasFremont said:
You sound bitter.PurpleThrobber said:
Everybody likes Starbucks cups in AAU.TurdBuffer said:@Throbber: I'm not following you. I'm familiar with the Tony Wroten situation, transfers, faux transfers, etc. But if you're alleging cash-in-cups, do tell. I don't know about that. But shit man, this thread's about Romar. Why hijack it & make it about Garfield? I'm sure there'll be threads on that stuff shortly.
And you are correct. Now that Bellevue is out in the light of day, Garfield most deservedly is in the que. After Beach.
Shoulda been a Viking!
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Romar's failures are numerous and well documented.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
So you're killing Petersen after 25 months and two seasons, albeit disappointing seasons, but Romar, who hasn't made a tournament in five years is better somehow?ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
At least give Petersen next year before you start putting him under fucking Romar. If he's 6-6 and in some crap bowl again, fine. He's definitely another Boise CC fraud. Romar has done less with more than any other Pac 12 coach I can think of....maybe Lavin is close...and I've been watching the conference since 1987 or so.
And yet Romar's accomplishments far outshine Petersen's. -
You really don't get it, do you?ThomasFremont said:
Ok, answer a simple question: what is Petersen's biggest accomplishment at UW thus far?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Jesus Christ you're dumb.ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar. -
Since you've already arbitrarily decided that Petersen's entire Boise tenure, which includes two BCS Bowl wins (and are clearly better accomplishments than any of Romar's S16 appearances), don't count, you've now been left with comparing the accomplishments of two years of a football program to 13 years of a basketball program. It takes a special kind of idiot to actually try to turn that into a meaningful comparison. But knock yourself out.ThomasFremont said:
Romar's failures are numerous and well documented.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
So you're killing Petersen after 25 months and two seasons, albeit disappointing seasons, but Romar, who hasn't made a tournament in five years is better somehow?ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
At least give Petersen next year before you start putting him under fucking Romar. If he's 6-6 and in some crap bowl again, fine. He's definitely another Boise CC fraud. Romar has done less with more than any other Pac 12 coach I can think of....maybe Lavin is close...and I've been watching the conference since 1987 or so.
And yet Romar's accomplishments far outshine Petersen's. -
I would just like to say that Petersen is building a program here so all conference records must be forgiven until at least 2017.
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If Petersen wins 4-5 conference games next year, he should be fired
If he competes for, and wins the PAC North next year, the entire argument as to whether he's the right guy for this program at this time should vanish.
The other argument that is completely fucktarded to me is the whole well if you hand the ball off earlier in the year more you might have got another win or two like it is a linear argument. This year was all about developing players and the team. If you can't see that the development of this team, and in particular offensively, grew as the year went on, then you just flat out aren't paying attention. -
I'm not a Boise St fan. Why would I give a fuck about Petersen's Boise W/L record or BCS bowls anymore? Those things got him the UW job, that's all they're good for. They're meaningless to us now that he is here.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Since you've already arbitrarily decided that Petersen's entire Boise tenure, which includes two BCS Bowl wins (and are clearly better accomplishments than any of Romar's S16 appearances), don't count, you've now been left with comparing the accomplishments of two years of a football program to 13 years of a basketball program. It takes a special kind of idiot to actually try to turn that into a meaningful comparison. But knock yourself out.ThomasFremont said:
Romar's failures are numerous and well documented.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
So you're killing Petersen after 25 months and two seasons, albeit disappointing seasons, but Romar, who hasn't made a tournament in five years is better somehow?ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
At least give Petersen next year before you start putting him under fucking Romar. If he's 6-6 and in some crap bowl again, fine. He's definitely another Boise CC fraud. Romar has done less with more than any other Pac 12 coach I can think of....maybe Lavin is close...and I've been watching the conference since 1987 or so.
And yet Romar's accomplishments far outshine Petersen's.
Do you see me saying Romar gets credit for winning a Natty at UCLA? Fuck no.
If Petersen wins the conference next year he will be on Romar's level (champ in year 3). But do you honestly see that happening?
I don't.
