Pac-12 All-Century team

creepycoug

EwaDawg said:

AZDuck said:

How many Heismans did Billy Joe Camaro haul back to Seattle?

That's what I thought.

Also too, the list kinda sucks. From an Oregon perspective, no Norm Van Brocklin or Bobby Moore seems dumb.

We should also get some credit for John McKay, since he went to school and learned how to coach in Eugene. We just couldn't afford the athletes back then.

BJ never brought home a loss, either. He did bring home a crystal football, so ask Marcus about that.

Eh.

creepycoug

doogsinparadise said:

No Dillon, no Hoffman, no Bueno.

WIth all the great linebackers to play in this confrence, your'e getting a little doog asking for Hoffman. Good linebacker who played behind an all-world D line. You can't mention him or Cliff in the same breath as Seau or about a 1/2 dozen other Trojan greats. Truth is, USC is the only school that can go toe to toe with the U as Linebacker U. Linebackers in the P 10 should all be Trojans. Much as it pains me to say that.

creepycoug

Doogles said:

Milloy should have had a sniff at safety. He was an all-American and his pro career legitimized him as the real deal

Agreed, but who you gonna move? Easley or Lott? Hard argument to make. If Malloy plays in the Big 10, you might have an argument, but the P10 has those two dudes.

RaceBannon

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Doogles

creepycoug said:

Doogles said:

Milloy should have had a sniff at safety. He was an all-American and his pro career legitimized him as the real deal

Agreed, but who you gonna move? Easley or Lott? Hard argument to make. If Malloy plays in the Big 10, you might have an argument, but the P10 has those two dudes.

I put him in the second tier with Polamalu. For sure a hard position group for Lawyer to crack.

dflea

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Indeed.

If football is about something else besides winning, then I guess Mariota is the guy. All BJ did was win - every time.

That is a monumental task in college football with any other players around a QB. One bad game, and you wind up with Brunell and that fucked up UCLA game in 90 at Husky Stadium that led to me losing my fucking mind and breaking shit.

I hold on to that 12-0 season fondly, and will swing on the sack of any starter on that team because they were bad motherfuckers who didn't lose a game, and that's as cool as it gets.

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Nebraska couldn't get across Miami's 40 yd. line in the Orange Bowel and got ass-raped by Gino Toretta and Lamar Thomas.

In other words, Nebraska, Eh. BFD.

Exactly.

dnc

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Nebraska couldn't get across Miami's 40 yd. line in the Orange Bowel and got ass-raped by Gino Toretta and Lamar Thomas.

In other words, Nebraska, Eh. BFD.

Exactly.

PM to Nebraska:

You don't come into the OB playing that stuff....You can't come over to our place talking noise like that. You'll get your butt beat. I was about to go down the elevator to get in that thing.....I say, why don't we meet outside in the tunnel after the ball game and get it on some more? You don't come into the OB, baby. We've had a down couple of years but you don't come in here talking smack. Not in our house.

AtomicDawg

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Nebraska couldn't get across Miami's 40 yd. line in the Orange Bowel and got ass-raped by Gino Toretta and Lamar Thomas.

In other words, Nebraska, Eh. BFD.

Exactly.

But did the Nebraska fans give torreta a standing ovation like billy joe? Didnt think so. Nuff said on that.

creepycoug

AtomicDawg said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

No I-never-lost-a-game-12-0-motherfucker BJ Hobert on a list that includes Mariota instead?

This conference makes my ass ache.

Eh, I'm usually with you on most things, but not this one.

First, all men with two first names are hill billy fags from West Virginia. Period.

Second, it's not like those Washington teams needed him. We? They? You? go 12-0 with you and me rotating under center. True story. Remember, fucker wasn't even supposed to start that year.

Third, I don't remember a lot of heroic moments from BJ during '91. He was a good player with a lively arm, but he was as much a caretaker as a star.

Mariotta, while not exactly playing for shit teams either, was THE fucking show. In terms of brass balls, while Billy Joe was irreverent with his mouth, Mariotta did it on the field.

I'd take Mariotta over Hobert 7 days a week.

Just to pick apart part of your point, they go 11-1 at best with Brunell who lost games in 90 and 92. Nebraska was all Billy

Nebraska couldn't get across Miami's 40 yd. line in the Orange Bowel and got ass-raped by Gino Toretta and Lamar Thomas.

In other words, Nebraska, Eh. BFD.

Exactly.

But did the Nebraska fans give torreta a standing ovation like billy joe? Didnt think so. Nuff said on that.

True true.