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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    It wasn't right about Florida St lol, come on Chest be reasonable. SRS has its place but to say it should 'be weighed right along with W/L' is crazy talk.

    Win, nothing else matters.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:

    Fair point about Cooper. But up to that point in his career, he had not fumbled the football in his entire career. Washington (the starter) has a history of fumbling problems and Coleman was a freshman. I get it from your perspective. I get it from the coaches perspective as well. I tend to chalk that up to winning players/teams making winnings plays and losing players/teams make losing plays.

    Regarding 4-1 to end the year, what part of that is LOL worthy?

    Arizona, Washington State, and Oregon State are either comparable to, or significantly worse than, Utah State from a SOS perspective. Neither of these 3 teams have beat anybody worth a damn. The Cougs best win is either at Arizona or Oregon (missing 2 of its most important offensive players). Arizona's 5 wins have been against teams with SRS of 90 or below + a D2 win. Oregon State's only D1 win was against 102nd ranked San Jose St. These are 3 TERRIBLE football teams.

    Arizona State is a team that has talent but can't seem to get out of its own way. Statistically, they are good in areas but outside of the UCLA game this year, they've lost by 2 scores to the 3 semi-legit teams that they played this year and allowed an Oregon team that statistically they beat up to beat them at home in a game that they went into the game thinking it was a win or else game. Follow that up with a trip to Pullman next weekend (in what could very well be a loss) and you may have a team that is quickly throwing in the towel on a season where some picked them for national championship aspirations.

    Utah's a good football team. But they can be offensively challenged and the defense has a good chance to keep the game close. Of the 5 games remaining, this would be the game that I don't think that we win.

    Of course you think we are going 4-1 you think we are going to win every week.

    Sure we could go 4-1. But 3-2 is most likely followed by 2-3 followed by 4-1.

    Play around with the odds. Most optimistic 15-18% chance of 4 or more wins here on out.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    Just think if Emmert had hire Mora back in '07. Then we'd be sitting here complaining about how Mora was taking us back to another Cotton Bowl instead of the Rose Bowl.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Gladstone said:

    It wasn't right about Florida St lol, come on Chest be reasonable. SRS has its place but to say it should 'be weighed right along with W/L' is crazy talk.

    Win, nothing else matters.

    SRS had FSU at #8 last year. They lost by 40 points in the playoff. Of course they were going to make the playoff but the metrics argued that they were clearly not a top 4 team.

    Ultimately W/L is all that matters. But when evaluating a new tenure or rebuild, SRS and other metrics are equally as important over the first few years. That stuff will be less important a few years from now.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,139
    edited October 2015

    Gladstone said:

    It wasn't right about Florida St lol, come on Chest be reasonable. SRS has its place but to say it should 'be weighed right along with W/L' is crazy talk.

    Win, nothing else matters.

    SRS had FSU at #8 last year. They lost by 40 points in the playoff. Of course they were going to make the playoff but the metrics argued that they were clearly not a top 4 team.

    Ultimately W/L is all that matters. But when evaluating a new tenure or rebuild, SRS and other metrics are equally as important over the first few years. That stuff will be less important a few years from now.
    They weren't right about Florida State. The game got away in the second half. They were a good team.

    Arkansas never would have went undefeated in the ACC. And SRS couldn't have been more wrong about Arkansas. That's something I pointed out multiple times.

    SRS says UW sucks. Being ranked 41 is nothing to celebrate.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    Just think if Emmert had hire Mora back in '07. Then we'd be sitting here complaining about how Mora was taking us back to another Cotton Bowl instead of the Rose Bowl.

    Yeah but we wouldn't be able to self righteously claim we?re not racist
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    From my research guy. Yes I have a guy.

    List of coaches in first two years who did not exceed win total of team the year before they came:

    Woody Hayes at Ohio State
    John McKay at USC
    Barry Switzer at Oklahoma
    Tom Osborne at Nebraska
    Phillip Fulmer at Tennessee
    Johnny Majors at Tennessee
    Charles McClendon at LSU
    Terry Donahue at UCLA
    Duffy Daugherty at Michigan State
    Jimmy Johnson at Miami
    Dennis Erickson at Miami
    Butch Davis at Miami
    Bobby Ross at Georgia Tech
    Jim Owens at Washington
    Jackie Sherrill at Pittsburgh
    Bobby Petrino at Arkansas
    David Shaw at Stanford
    John Ralston at Stanford
    Mike Bellotti at Oregon
    Rich Brooks at Oregon
    Danny Ford at Clemson

    Some of them tied win total but did not match it.