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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,485 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2015
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    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.

    LIPO. The mighty Harbaugh increased his win total by 1 his second year at stanford (a second consecutive losing season) and then finished his 3rd year with a loss in the much made fun of Sun Bowl.

    Jesus Christ.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    .261 lifetime is nothing speshul
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    The conference was worse shit then than it is now.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    The conference was worse shit then than it is now.
    Fuck outta here with that Doog shit.

    Fuck. Outta. Here.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,485 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2015
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    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.

    That second year decline is proof James wasn't the guy to lead Washington.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.
    Win four Rose Bowls and half a natty then pop off.

    Or in Peterman's case, get above .500 in Pac-12 conference play then pop off.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    The conference was worse shit then than it is now.
    Fuck outta here with that Doog shit.

    Fuck. Outta. Here.
    It's true, and it's fine. James was a fantastic coach. Just pointing it out.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,485 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2015
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    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.

    Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.

    It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykes
    Year 3

    1-11
    5-7

    Staring off 5-0 and ranked.

    We're (?) fucked
    Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.

    The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.

    That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
    Doog post

    Doog poster


    Look at those conference records:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
    Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.
    Win four Rose Bowls and half a natty then pop off.

    Or in Peterman's case, get above .500 in Pac-12 conference play then pop off.
    He won only 2 rose bowls in his first 15 years. I like Pete's chances if given the same leash.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2015
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    Of course this board has knee jerk reactions and is sometimes irrational. That said, Pete has been really, really fucking bad so far. Really fucking bad. Like worse than Sark bad. And we all hated Sark. There is no way around it. 8-6 last year with an easy 4 wins in non conference and every single tough game other than Oregon at home.

    Peterman didn't beat a single team with a winning record. A one point win over Hawaii. A close game against Eastern in which they scored 52 points. Losing at halftime to a Georgia State team that went 0-8 in the Sun Belt Conference. Last season was a fucking disaster. I know a lot of good coaches have struggled in their first year, but in retrospect, it looks like one big fucking warning sign to me.

    A lot of it was blamed on Sark, some of it probably justifiably so. Sark is/was an average coach at best. Sark never had a season in which he didn't beat a team with a winning record. Petersen was hired to be better than Sark, and so far, he's actually been worse. It's fucking sobering. I have seen nothing from Petersen at UW to suggest he could win a conference title, and that's even with a golden opportunity with Oregon slipping.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123 Swaye's Wigwam
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    Of course this board has knee jerk reactions and is sometimes irrational. That said, Pete has been really, really fucking bad so far. Really fucking bad. Like worse than Sark bad. And we all hated Sark. There is no way around it. 8-6 last year with an easy 4 wins in non conference and every single tough game other than Oregon at home.

    Peterman didn't beat a single team with a winning record. A one point win over Hawaii. A close game against Eastern in which they scored 52 points. Losing at halftime to a Georgia State team that went 0-8 in the Sun Belt Conference. Last season was a fucking disaster. I know a lot of good coaches have struggled in their first year, but in retrospect, it looks like one big fucking warning sign to me.

    A lot of it was blamed on Sark, some of it probably justifiably so. Sark is/was an average coach at best. Sark never had a season in which he didn't beat a team with a winning record. Petersen was hired to be better than Sark, and so far, he's actually been worse. It's fucking sobering. I have seen nothing from Petersen at UW to suggest he could win a conference title, and that's even with a golden opportunity with Oregon slipping.

    Might as well not even play football anymore then.
    I know you are being sarcastic, but I don't play football.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.

    Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started.
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 1,994
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    Let it play out
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    HuskyInAZ said:

    Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.

    Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started.

    Nice down vote, fucktard. Do you want to dispute the facts? Or would you rather bitch, whine and moan? Pretty sure I know the answer.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    HuskyInAZ said:

    Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.

    Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started.

    It's a shame that Washington is too fucking young for the 14th year in a row.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,657 Swaye's Wigwam
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    The PAC 10 in the 80s was the SEC of its time. Far and away the best conference