Petersen tried to reward Smith with a stretch hire that he thought he was capable of. The results in Year 1 showed growing pains and the hope was that Year 2 would show a more balanced and experienced OC. Smith is well on the way to failing in that regard. Now it's on Petersen to make the associated change when needed.
That change isn't happening during the season.
Making stretch hires isn't uncommon ... everybody needs to have someone believe in them to make them advance in their career. Further, it's not uncommon that you fail at some point and have to do some self-reflection to learn from some mistakes.
Bottom line though is that this all comes back down to Petersen making the tough call during the offseason.
I suppose one of these times over the last 15 years or so this line of insider bullshit that we get after every new coach is exposed could actually be true BUT I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I FUCKING SEE IT.
Awfully young culture change next year or the year after fucking special as always.
What fucking entitled purple glasses are you talking about. Get the shit out of your eyes and your head out of pool boy's ass and grab a fucking clue.
As you know, we have not been good over the past 15 years or so. Lots of blame to go around, but the lions share goes to AD and up. But that doesn't change reality today. Our offense is historically young based on the shit for talent left by Sark. Expecting them to be clicking on most cylinders is ridiculous, unless of course, you're sporting entitled purple glasses.
I'm not a fan of pool boy, nor am I a fan of Smith. Regardless, how about you pull your head out of the past, get your cataracts corrected and get a clear view of our reality today.
Once you realize that nobody expects 12-0 or for the offense to be elite, you might get it. Whether it's a bad QB or youth, having the worst offense in the conference isn't acceptable. It has cost us games the past two years. And it's nothing new. This started at Boise.
The game last Saturday was Cal's best defensive performance against a real team since Dykes took over. Boise State's defense has looked very ordinary since the UW game.
If we want to get really simple. The Petersen era has sucked since the very first game against Hawaii.
Now you're just getting FS. BSU is the #1 rushing defense and the #18 scoring defense. That includes playing UW, @BYU and @ Virginia.
BSU's defense is damn good. Oh, and they have a ton of SRs making that happen.
Those must be some pretty tough teams with potent offenses. UW, BYU, and Virginia. Props to Boise, those teams are explosive! Whether they are great, good, or just okay, we didn't score an offensive TD and had 179 yards of total offense.
Please lay out for me who has played a tougher schedule to date. There are a few teams, but I'm guessing you can count them on one hand.
One thing I've learned on this board, when you say something really stupid, it's best to not try to defend the it.
You seem to know the doog playbook very well. Too young, TUFF schedule, etc.
I bet you Barked for Sark. In fact, I guarantee it.
I never barked for sark. Again, answer the question or STFU. For the 4th time, show me a P5 team with the youth of UW's offense that had decent results. You and the rest of the knee-jerk crowd can't answer it because the answer is that no team can expect consistent offensive output with the youth on our team. It doesn't mean we can't want it, hope for it.....it means it's FS to expect it.
I don't have intricate knowledge of every P5 team. You don't either so STFU. We are young, we get it. Nobody expects a really good offense. One that is merely below average would have at least 3-4 more wins. There really is no excuse for being worse than Oregon State, Colorado, etc on offense.
The bottom line is that when Petersen was hired, if we were told he would be 10-8 with the worst offenses in the Pac 12, we would say fuck off. And yet that is where we are, but you and a few others still roll out the doog playbook. Praise for wins, criticism for losses. That's how this thing works. Petersen hasn't been good enough.
I know it doesn't fit your narrative, but please show me where I'm rolling out of the doog playbook.
I think a few on this board are rolling with the petulant toddler playbook. Knee jerk reactions and consistent overlooking of facts that don't fit their slant resulting in a FYFMFE tirade. It's as predictable as the biased media.
I suppose one of these times over the last 15 years or so this line of insider bullshit that we get after every new coach is exposed could actually be true BUT I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I FUCKING SEE IT.
Awfully young culture change next year or the year after fucking special as always.
What fucking entitled purple glasses are you talking about. Get the shit out of your eyes and your head out of pool boy's ass and grab a fucking clue.
As you know, we have not been good over the past 15 years or so. Lots of blame to go around, but the lions share goes to AD and up. But that doesn't change reality today. Our offense is historically young based on the shit for talent left by Sark. Expecting them to be clicking on most cylinders is ridiculous, unless of course, you're sporting entitled purple glasses.
I'm not a fan of pool boy, nor am I a fan of Smith. Regardless, how about you pull your head out of the past, get your cataracts corrected and get a clear view of our reality today.
Once you realize that nobody expects 12-0 or for the offense to be elite, you might get it. Whether it's a bad QB or youth, having the worst offense in the conference isn't acceptable. It has cost us games the past two years. And it's nothing new. This started at Boise.
The game last Saturday was Cal's best defensive performance against a real team since Dykes took over. Boise State's defense has looked very ordinary since the UW game.
If we want to get really simple. The Petersen era has sucked since the very first game against Hawaii.
Hilarious. Last year there was a chorus of "blow this shit up and start over." So, Petersen blew the shit up and started over. Now it seems a few people on this board can't handle the result.
Well, guess what - when you blow shit up it means the aftermath on the field will likely suck. The shitty play-calling by Babushka and some poor decisions by Petersen are on them. Got it. But Sark left this program with a bunch of head cases and the worst stable of QBs and OLs in the conference. We should've beat cal at home, but this shit won't get fixed over night.
If we're still seeing failed bubble screens and uninspired WR play by the end of this year/early next year, then I will join all the hand wringing.
In the meantime, welcome to the world of "blowing shit up."
I used to actually think you had some standards and got it. This is another post pretending that those that acknowledge that Petersen has sucked so far expect 12-0. Not even Sven expects that.
You're worried about uninspired WR play? This whole blowing shit up excuse is FS too. Yeah, Petersen didn't inherit a perfect situation. Not many coaches do. He did inherit Kikaha, Shelton, Shaq, Peters, Victor, Bierria, Feeney, Ross, and Qualls, but still. Kim used to say the same thing about Sark needing to blow things up.
I used to actually think you understood managing a program.
I think parts of Petersen have sucked. But to just attach the "suck" label to a guy that has recruited well and is clearly having a positive impact on culture is superficial, and frankly stupid.
I expected and still expect 7-5 (at least) and I can remember people talking about 4-5 wins during the never-ending offseason.
I'm withholding the big rants for a month or so, partially due to apathy. If the offense is still sputtering in November, tip of the hat to Race and Sven for calling it early.
100 new poasts in this thread = TL, DR and this team fucking sucks.
I read it.
I'm dooging, but Freeme makes some solid poonts late. Either way it's not interesting.
I still doog for Browning and a few guys on defense, but that's about it right now. I'd still be doogin for Pete if he had half a brain and fired Smith last year.
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Real coaches usually don't hire coordinators that need to be fired in year one.
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Real coaches usually don't hire coordinators that need to be fired in year one.
REAL coaches don't usually come from the WAC!!!!111
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Real coaches usually don't hire coordinators that need to be fired in year one.
I'm still waiting for your answer. I'm not the dumb fuck who said, "That's what real head coaches do."
Smith wasn't getting fired last year ... deserved or not.
That's what real head coaches do.
Can you name some examples of "real" head coaches who fired one of their coordinators in year one? I'm not intending to be a smart ass, but I don't know of any.
Real coaches usually don't hire coordinators that need to be fired in year one.
I'm still waiting for your answer. I'm not the dumb fuck who said, "That's what real head coaches do."
Here's a better question: Are there any REAL head coaches out there that had to fire a coordinator after year one or two?
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Hi.
The change was needed after last season.
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/23542/my-thoughts-on-the-state-of-the-2015-team
Hope this helps.
I'm dooging, but Freeme makes some solid poonts late. Either way it's not interesting.
I'm withholding the big rants for a month or so, partially due to apathy. If the offense is still sputtering in November, tip of the hat to Race and Sven for calling it early.
Petersen hired Smith and will have to fire him bu hasn't and he is the answer
We are on the verge of the second epic True Troll.
Sark is Rick without a Rose Bowl and
Sark is better than Petersen
Taking over Owen12 and going 5-4 every year is better than taking over 5-4 and going 4-5 every year
Everybody says so.