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Obama pushes for Solar Power North of the Arctic Circle.
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For all you Hipster Douche Bags out there, that's where the SUN DON'T SHINE for months in the winter. Your President is a fucking idiot.
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OK, you're a fucking idiot too.PurpleJ said:You're*
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In May, June and July the sun never sets in that part of Alaska.
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It's almost as if the writers of that fine journal that d2d reads didn't know that.JaWarrenJaHooker said:In May, June and July the sun never sets in that part of Alaska.
I'm no solar fanatic but still
No big surprise.
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Death's never heard about batteries.
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Or the difference between "your" and "you're"...2001400ex said:Death's never heard about batteries.
Idiot.
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Batteries that store energy collected in May/June/July for energy needs in Nov/Dec/Jan?2001400ex said:Death's never heard about batteries.
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Cool pictures. Are those solar doohickeys on the roofs of them there houses?2001400ex said:
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Do you think the sun sets in August and doesn't come up until may? You are aware they receive just as much sun as us, right? So they can store power from November to be used.HuskyInAZ said:
But why try to get off fossil fuels? They have worked well so far. -
Also, most people are connected to a thing known as a "grid" and the grid can serve as a type of "battery".
But yeah, let's keep digging more coal to burn... because the sun doesn't rise and set at the same time everywhere.... -
"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
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Are you that stupid?HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
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Batteries: Obviously Hipster Douche Bags haven't ever tried to start their car at -30 below zero. Alaskans actually PLUG THEIR GAS BURNING CARS INTO ELECTRICITY IN THE WINTER ALL THE TIME SO THEY'LL START.
I always love the tree huggers who've lived in a city their entire lives.
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"THE GRID" in Alaska... (educating Hipster Douche Bags is so tiring)HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
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I didn't say it was a battery, I said it can serve as a type of battery, which means you can store electricity there when you have excess, and draw it back when you need it.HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
Most utilities on the grid let you send power to them if you are generating more than you use (solar, wind, etc). This is a way to store it, and they pay you for it.
When you need it again, you use it, and pay for it.
I see that high level concepts are lost on some of you guys.
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Yeah, cities suck. That is why most people choose to live in them.d2d said:
I always love the tree huggers who've lived in a city their entire lives.
The sticks, full of toothless inbred hicks, are wonderful. That is why nobody lives there (except for toothless inbred hicks).
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You are one stupid MFer. Sure, if you generate more power that you use, most utilities will buy that power from you. But they don't store it for you for when you need it. Sending your unused power to the grid means that other power sources on the grid need to produce a bit less for current demand.....CURRENT DEMAND. Got it?OZONE said:
I didn't say it was a battery, I said it can serve as a type of battery, which means you can store electricity there when you have excess, and draw it back when you need it.HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
Most utilities on the grid let you send power to them if you are generating more than you use (solar, wind, etc). This is a way to store it, and they pay you for it.
When you need it again, you use it, and pay for it.
I see that high level concepts are lost on some of you guys. -
They might not store it. But have you heard of credits? You think they buy it for free?HuskyInAZ said:
You are one stupid MFer. Sure, if you generate more power that you use, most utilities will buy that power from you. But they don't store it for you for when you need it. Sending your unused power to the grid means that other power sources on the grid need to produce a bit less for current demand.....CURRENT DEMAND. Got it?OZONE said:
I didn't say it was a battery, I said it can serve as a type of battery, which means you can store electricity there when you have excess, and draw it back when you need it.HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
Most utilities on the grid let you send power to them if you are generating more than you use (solar, wind, etc). This is a way to store it, and they pay you for it.
When you need it again, you use it, and pay for it.
I see that high level concepts are lost on some of you guys.
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Ummmm. The Sun never gets past 40 degrees in the sky and is not up for long in November. And last I heard they use much more energy for heating in the winter than they do during the months when sunlight is abundant.2001400ex said:
Do you think the sun sets in August and doesn't come up until may? You are aware they receive just as much sun as us, right? So they can store power from November to be used.HuskyInAZ said:
But why try to get off fossil fuels? They have worked well so far.
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As I said, high level concepts are lost on some of you. From the perspective of the house sending it's excess to the grid, it can be thought of... and here is the tricky part that might be above your IQ... it can be *thought of* as ...storing it...HuskyInAZ said:
Sending your unused power to the grid means that other power sources on the grid need to produce a bit less for current demand.OZONE said:
I didn't say it was a battery, I said it can serve as a type of battery, which means you can store electricity there when you have excess, and draw it back when you need it.HuskyInAZ said:"...the grid can serve as a type of battery"? Do tell.
Most utilities on the grid let you send power to them if you are generating more than you use (solar, wind, etc). This is a way to store it, and they pay you for it.
When you need it again, you use it, and pay for it.
I see that high level concepts are lost on some of you guys.
Pretty clear this is over your conceptual mind... you should probably just stick to listening to Rush Limbaugh. -
This thread. So much stupid on both sides of the argument.
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Great argument as always SFJ.PurpleJ said:This thread. So much stupid on both sides of the argument.
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HuskyInAZ probably doesn't understand why hydro is NOT a renewable resource according to the government. They do that so their Green Energy bullshit looks better on paper.
For one who has actually been north of the Arctic Circle in BOTH winter and summer, I'd like to know how many Hipster Douche Bags have even been there ??? The best science always comes from Fremont ???
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tinfoilhat.jpgd2d said:HuskyInAZ probably doesn't understand why hydro is NOT a renewable resource according to the government. They do that so their Green Energy bullshit looks better on paper.
For one who has actually been north of the Arctic Circle in BOTH winter and summer, I'd like to know how many Hipster Douche Bags have even been there ??? The best science always comes from Fremont ???
You've been to the arctic circle, so you know how solar panels work. And Palin could see Russia from her house so she knew foreign policy. -
Wrongly quoting someone (it was a SNL skit...not Palin who said that) to infer someone else doesn't know anything is always good...2001400ex said:
tinfoilhat.jpgd2d said:HuskyInAZ probably doesn't understand why hydro is NOT a renewable resource according to the government. They do that so their Green Energy bullshit looks better on paper.
For one who has actually been north of the Arctic Circle in BOTH winter and summer, I'd like to know how many Hipster Douche Bags have even been there ??? The best science always comes from Fremont ???
You've been to the arctic circle, so you know how solar panels work. And Palin could see Russia from her house so she knew foreign policy.
...when your IQ is under the speed limit.
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Memo to @2001400ex and @OZONE........
Solar energy displaces other forms of energy WHEN THE SUN IS OUT. Same is true for wind power. It only works when the wind is blowing. There is no "battery" in the sky. It doesn't exist. You don't get to store your unused solar energy in the "energy cloud". The argument that you can just buy it back from the grid when you need is so fucking stupid I'm speechless. Buying it back from the grid at a future date means you are buying power generated by means other than solar, usually fossil fuel or nuclear.
If the intention is to go green, support something that doesn't have the "sun is out" limitation. Maybe something like nuclear and hydroelectric. No one wants to continue to burn carbon fuels to support our energy needs. But for someone to suggest that all we need to do is store solar energy via batteries or the the grid has no understanding how power and the grid work. -
Just like "we need to pass the bill so we can see what's in it"?HoustonHusky said:
Wrongly quoting someone (it was a SNL skit...not Palin who said that) to infer someone else doesn't know anything is always good...2001400ex said:
tinfoilhat.jpgd2d said:HuskyInAZ probably doesn't understand why hydro is NOT a renewable resource according to the government. They do that so their Green Energy bullshit looks better on paper.
For one who has actually been north of the Arctic Circle in BOTH winter and summer, I'd like to know how many Hipster Douche Bags have even been there ??? The best science always comes from Fremont ???
You've been to the arctic circle, so you know how solar panels work. And Palin could see Russia from her house so she knew foreign policy.
...when your IQ is under the speed limit.
I'm fully aware of her quote. She said people can see parts of Russia from Alaska, inferring she knows something about foreign policy.
The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
