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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited June 2015

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:



    HFNY said:

    The OP is why most rational observers are predicting a 5-7 to 7-5 regular season.

    There's no upper level / NFL talent left from the 2011 and 2012 classes except for maybe Dwayne Washington. Josh Perkins may have a slight chance but needs to be playing at closer to 240 lbs so that he can add more in the running game.

    I used to be more bullish on Dex Charles he's had problems staying healthy and that's slowed him down.

    5-7 against this dreckfest of a schedule is bullshit.

    HTH
    The narrative about a "dreckfest of a schedule" is complete BS.

    A little data for you, comparing the mighty SEC, SEC, SEC with the P12 in terms of non-conference scheduling.....

    2015 SEC Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 4 non-conference games/year):
    Georgia vs GT
    LSU vs. Syracuse
    MSU vs. Southern Miss
    Missouri vs. Arkansas State
    Ole Miss vs. Memphis
    Vandy vs. Mid Tennessee
    Vandy vs. Houston

    2015 SEC Neutral Field games:
    Alabama vs Wisconsin @ Dallas - I'm ignoring this match-up, as it's fairly close to a neutral field.

    P12 Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 3 non-conference games/year):
    Arizona vs. Nevada
    ASU vs. TAMU @ Dallas (a virtual home game for TAMU)
    Cal vs. Texas
    Colorado vs. Hawaii
    Oregon vs. Michigan State
    OSU vs. Michigan
    Stanford vs. Northwestern
    UCLA vs. UNLV
    USC vs. Notre Dame
    Utah vs. Fresno State
    UW vs. BSU
    WSU vs Rutgers

    Let's see. The SEC, SEC, SEC has 14 teams playing a total of 56 non-conference games. Of those 56 games, 7 are away games (2 of those are played by the worst team in the conference). Overall, 7/56 = 12.5% of SEC, SEC, SEC non-conference games are played away.

    In the P12, every single team has an away, non-conference game. With 12 teams and 36 non-conference games in total, that works out to 12/36 = 33.3% of non-conference games played away.

    And this doesn't take into account whether a team like BSU is a tougher opponent than Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Memphis, Mid Tennessee or Houston, 5 of the 7 SEC non-conference games played away.

    So who exactly has a dreckfest of a schedule?
    Both
    Bull Shit. One conference plays 12.5% of their non-conference schedule on the road, while the other conference plays 33.3% of their non-conference schedule on the road. Apples & oranges. The SEC is a pack of entitled pussies with fans who are too stupid to realize it.
    Are you seriously proud by teams like Arizona going to Nevada, UCLA going to UNLV, and Utah to Fresno? Fuck man, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that the Pac-12 are traveling to MWC stadiums next season. And in response to the SEC, what about next year when the state rivalries switch and Florida goes to FSU, USC goes to Clemson, UK goes to Louisville? How "dreck" is 2016 between the two conferences?

    To me, your data on away games doesn't refute awful scheduling between both conferences but just shows how willing Pac-12 ADs are to give up free money. Does UCLA really need to go to UNLV? Does Arizona need to go to Nevada? If these ADs were like SEC ADs and demanded home games, they would've made more money since 70k in the Rose Bowl plus a fee to UNLV is gonna generate more than 25K in Sam Boyd.
    Pretty sure I didn't say I was proud of AZ, UCLA and Utah for their non-conference scheduling. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant. The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams. The P12, though, certainly plays a tougher non-conference schedule, and they play teams who are good enough to merit a home and home series. The conference of "dreckfest" non-conference scheduling is clearly the SEC.

    My issue in all of this is that it was suggested that UW's schedule is a "dreckfest", despite the fact that they play BSU on the road, who is arguably better than any non-conference team that ANY SEC school plays on the road.
    Is English your first language or are you just retarded?
    HuskyInAZ said:

    don't let facts get in the way of your rant.

    Ok.
    HuskyInAZ said:

    The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams.

    Ok.

    Just because the SEC has shittier scheduling - which I've said in all my posts - doesn't mean the Pac-12 isn't guilty of shit scheduling, too. Hell, even you agree.

    Just admit both conferences suck at non-conference scheduling and stop being a little bitch.

    Both conferences DONT. suck at non-con scheduling BITCH. The pac12 and Big10 always play AT LEAST 1 quality or above-quality opponent. Have forever, every year. Sometimes 2 (in UW and UCLA's case). The SEC DOES FUCKING NEITHER.

    Nevada, idaho, $ac St , doesnt matter. Home or away. Now fuck off writeabout
    Who was UW's quality non conference opponent last year?
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:



    HFNY said:

    The OP is why most rational observers are predicting a 5-7 to 7-5 regular season.

    There's no upper level / NFL talent left from the 2011 and 2012 classes except for maybe Dwayne Washington. Josh Perkins may have a slight chance but needs to be playing at closer to 240 lbs so that he can add more in the running game.

    I used to be more bullish on Dex Charles he's had problems staying healthy and that's slowed him down.

    5-7 against this dreckfest of a schedule is bullshit.

    HTH
    The narrative about a "dreckfest of a schedule" is complete BS.

    A little data for you, comparing the mighty SEC, SEC, SEC with the P12 in terms of non-conference scheduling.....

    2015 SEC Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 4 non-conference games/year):
    Georgia vs GT
    LSU vs. Syracuse
    MSU vs. Southern Miss
    Missouri vs. Arkansas State
    Ole Miss vs. Memphis
    Vandy vs. Mid Tennessee
    Vandy vs. Houston

    2015 SEC Neutral Field games:
    Alabama vs Wisconsin @ Dallas - I'm ignoring this match-up, as it's fairly close to a neutral field.

    P12 Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 3 non-conference games/year):
    Arizona vs. Nevada
    ASU vs. TAMU @ Dallas (a virtual home game for TAMU)
    Cal vs. Texas
    Colorado vs. Hawaii
    Oregon vs. Michigan State
    OSU vs. Michigan
    Stanford vs. Northwestern
    UCLA vs. UNLV
    USC vs. Notre Dame
    Utah vs. Fresno State
    UW vs. BSU
    WSU vs Rutgers

    Let's see. The SEC, SEC, SEC has 14 teams playing a total of 56 non-conference games. Of those 56 games, 7 are away games (2 of those are played by the worst team in the conference). Overall, 7/56 = 12.5% of SEC, SEC, SEC non-conference games are played away.

    In the P12, every single team has an away, non-conference game. With 12 teams and 36 non-conference games in total, that works out to 12/36 = 33.3% of non-conference games played away.

    And this doesn't take into account whether a team like BSU is a tougher opponent than Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Memphis, Mid Tennessee or Houston, 5 of the 7 SEC non-conference games played away.

    So who exactly has a dreckfest of a schedule?
    Both
    Bull Shit. One conference plays 12.5% of their non-conference schedule on the road, while the other conference plays 33.3% of their non-conference schedule on the road. Apples & oranges. The SEC is a pack of entitled pussies with fans who are too stupid to realize it.
    Are you seriously proud by teams like Arizona going to Nevada, UCLA going to UNLV, and Utah to Fresno? Fuck man, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that the Pac-12 are traveling to MWC stadiums next season. And in response to the SEC, what about next year when the state rivalries switch and Florida goes to FSU, USC goes to Clemson, UK goes to Louisville? How "dreck" is 2016 between the two conferences?

    To me, your data on away games doesn't refute awful scheduling between both conferences but just shows how willing Pac-12 ADs are to give up free money. Does UCLA really need to go to UNLV? Does Arizona need to go to Nevada? If these ADs were like SEC ADs and demanded home games, they would've made more money since 70k in the Rose Bowl plus a fee to UNLV is gonna generate more than 25K in Sam Boyd.
    Pretty sure I didn't say I was proud of AZ, UCLA and Utah for their non-conference scheduling. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant. The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams. The P12, though, certainly plays a tougher non-conference schedule, and they play teams who are good enough to merit a home and home series. The conference of "dreckfest" non-conference scheduling is clearly the SEC.

    My issue in all of this is that it was suggested that UW's schedule is a "dreckfest", despite the fact that they play BSU on the road, who is arguably better than any non-conference team that ANY SEC school plays on the road.
    Is English your first language or are you just retarded?
    HuskyInAZ said:

    don't let facts get in the way of your rant.

    Ok.
    HuskyInAZ said:

    The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams.

    Ok.

    Just because the SEC has shittier scheduling - which I've said in all my posts - doesn't mean the Pac-12 isn't guilty of shit scheduling, too. Hell, even you agree.

    Just admit both conferences suck at non-conference scheduling and stop being a little bitch.

    Both conferences DONT. suck at non-con scheduling BITCH. The pac12 and Big10 always play AT LEAST 1 quality or above-quality opponent. Have forever, every year. Sometimes 2 (in UW and UCLA's case). The SEC DOES FUCKING NEITHER.

    Nevada, idaho, $ac St , doesnt matter. Home or away. Now fuck off writeabout
    Who was UW's quality non conference opponent last year?
    Eastern
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:



    HFNY said:

    The OP is why most rational observers are predicting a 5-7 to 7-5 regular season.

    There's no upper level / NFL talent left from the 2011 and 2012 classes except for maybe Dwayne Washington. Josh Perkins may have a slight chance but needs to be playing at closer to 240 lbs so that he can add more in the running game.

    I used to be more bullish on Dex Charles he's had problems staying healthy and that's slowed him down.

    5-7 against this dreckfest of a schedule is bullshit.

    HTH
    The narrative about a "dreckfest of a schedule" is complete BS.

    A little data for you, comparing the mighty SEC, SEC, SEC with the P12 in terms of non-conference scheduling.....

    2015 SEC Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 4 non-conference games/year):
    Georgia vs GT
    LSU vs. Syracuse
    MSU vs. Southern Miss
    Missouri vs. Arkansas State
    Ole Miss vs. Memphis
    Vandy vs. Mid Tennessee
    Vandy vs. Houston

    2015 SEC Neutral Field games:
    Alabama vs Wisconsin @ Dallas - I'm ignoring this match-up, as it's fairly close to a neutral field.

    P12 Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 3 non-conference games/year):
    Arizona vs. Nevada
    ASU vs. TAMU @ Dallas (a virtual home game for TAMU)
    Cal vs. Texas
    Colorado vs. Hawaii
    Oregon vs. Michigan State
    OSU vs. Michigan
    Stanford vs. Northwestern
    UCLA vs. UNLV
    USC vs. Notre Dame
    Utah vs. Fresno State
    UW vs. BSU
    WSU vs Rutgers

    Let's see. The SEC, SEC, SEC has 14 teams playing a total of 56 non-conference games. Of those 56 games, 7 are away games (2 of those are played by the worst team in the conference). Overall, 7/56 = 12.5% of SEC, SEC, SEC non-conference games are played away.

    In the P12, every single team has an away, non-conference game. With 12 teams and 36 non-conference games in total, that works out to 12/36 = 33.3% of non-conference games played away.

    And this doesn't take into account whether a team like BSU is a tougher opponent than Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Memphis, Mid Tennessee or Houston, 5 of the 7 SEC non-conference games played away.

    So who exactly has a dreckfest of a schedule?
    Both
    Bull Shit. One conference plays 12.5% of their non-conference schedule on the road, while the other conference plays 33.3% of their non-conference schedule on the road. Apples & oranges. The SEC is a pack of entitled pussies with fans who are too stupid to realize it.
    Are you seriously proud by teams like Arizona going to Nevada, UCLA going to UNLV, and Utah to Fresno? Fuck man, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that the Pac-12 are traveling to MWC stadiums next season. And in response to the SEC, what about next year when the state rivalries switch and Florida goes to FSU, USC goes to Clemson, UK goes to Louisville? How "dreck" is 2016 between the two conferences?

    To me, your data on away games doesn't refute awful scheduling between both conferences but just shows how willing Pac-12 ADs are to give up free money. Does UCLA really need to go to UNLV? Does Arizona need to go to Nevada? If these ADs were like SEC ADs and demanded home games, they would've made more money since 70k in the Rose Bowl plus a fee to UNLV is gonna generate more than 25K in Sam Boyd.
    Pretty sure I didn't say I was proud of AZ, UCLA and Utah for their non-conference scheduling. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant. The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams. The P12, though, certainly plays a tougher non-conference schedule, and they play teams who are good enough to merit a home and home series. The conference of "dreckfest" non-conference scheduling is clearly the SEC.

    My issue in all of this is that it was suggested that UW's schedule is a "dreckfest", despite the fact that they play BSU on the road, who is arguably better than any non-conference team that ANY SEC school plays on the road.
    Is English your first language or are you just retarded?
    HuskyInAZ said:

    don't let facts get in the way of your rant.

    Ok.
    HuskyInAZ said:

    The fact is both conferences schedule shitty non-conference teams.

    Ok.

    Just because the SEC has shittier scheduling - which I've said in all my posts - doesn't mean the Pac-12 isn't guilty of shit scheduling, too. Hell, even you agree.

    Just admit both conferences suck at non-conference scheduling and stop being a little bitch.

    Both conferences DONT. suck at non-con scheduling BITCH. The pac12 and Big10 always play AT LEAST 1 quality or above-quality opponent. Have forever, every year. Sometimes 2 (in UW and UCLA's case). The SEC DOES FUCKING NEITHER.

    Nevada, idaho, $ac St , doesnt matter. Home or away. Now fuck off writeabout
    I thought you were a Husky fan?

    You clearly don't know shit about their OOC schedules.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Jesus. What the fuck did I just read?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773
    Can't wait for Bama/Wisconsin!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    Whew!!!

    And here I thought this was gonna be another it's all Sarq's fault thread.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:



    HFNY said:

    The OP is why most rational observers are predicting a 5-7 to 7-5 regular season.

    There's no upper level / NFL talent left from the 2011 and 2012 classes except for maybe Dwayne Washington. Josh Perkins may have a slight chance but needs to be playing at closer to 240 lbs so that he can add more in the running game.

    I used to be more bullish on Dex Charles he's had problems staying healthy and that's slowed him down.

    5-7 against this dreckfest of a schedule is bullshit.

    HTH
    The narrative about a "dreckfest of a schedule" is complete BS.

    A little data for you, comparing the mighty SEC, SEC, SEC with the P12 in terms of non-conference scheduling.....

    2015 SEC Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 4 non-conference games/year):
    Georgia vs GT
    LSU vs. Syracuse
    MSU vs. Southern Miss
    Missouri vs. Arkansas State
    Ole Miss vs. Memphis
    Vandy vs. Mid Tennessee
    Vandy vs. Houston

    2015 SEC Neutral Field games:
    Alabama vs Wisconsin @ Dallas - I'm ignoring this match-up, as it's fairly close to a neutral field.

    P12 Non-Conference Away games (keeping in mind they have 3 non-conference games/year):
    Arizona vs. Nevada
    ASU vs. TAMU @ Dallas (a virtual home game for TAMU)
    Cal vs. Texas
    Colorado vs. Hawaii
    Oregon vs. Michigan State
    OSU vs. Michigan
    Stanford vs. Northwestern
    UCLA vs. UNLV
    USC vs. Notre Dame
    Utah vs. Fresno State
    UW vs. BSU
    WSU vs Rutgers

    Let's see. The SEC, SEC, SEC has 14 teams playing a total of 56 non-conference games. Of those 56 games, 7 are away games (2 of those are played by the worst team in the conference). Overall, 7/56 = 12.5% of SEC, SEC, SEC non-conference games are played away.

    In the P12, every single team has an away, non-conference game. With 12 teams and 36 non-conference games in total, that works out to 12/36 = 33.3% of non-conference games played away.

    And this doesn't take into account whether a team like BSU is a tougher opponent than Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Memphis, Mid Tennessee or Houston, 5 of the 7 SEC non-conference games played away.

    So who exactly has a dreckfest of a schedule?
    Both
    Bull Shit. One conference plays 12.5% of their non-conference schedule on the road, while the other conference plays 33.3% of their non-conference schedule on the road. Apples & oranges. The SEC is a pack of entitled pussies with fans who are too stupid to realize it.
    Are you seriously proud by teams like Arizona going to Nevada, UCLA going to UNLV, and Utah to Fresno? Fuck man, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that the Pac-12 are traveling to MWC stadiums next season. And in response to the SEC, what about next year when the state rivalries switch and Florida goes to FSU, USC goes to Clemson, UK goes to Louisville? How "dreck" is 2016 between the two conferences?

    To me, your data on away games doesn't refute awful scheduling between both conferences but just shows how willing Pac-12 ADs are to give up free money. Does UCLA really need to go to UNLV? Does Arizona need to go to Nevada? If these ADs were like SEC ADs and demanded home games, they would've made more money since 70k in the Rose Bowl plus a fee to UNLV is gonna generate more than 25K in Sam Boyd.
    Kreist.

    USC/ Clemson and UF/FSU have been playing each other forever. It's called an in-state rivalry. Last I heard Lexington and Louisville are in the same state too.


    I like to tout my coaches 92-12 record and then call the place where he did all that work an embarrassment. It's what I like to do.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,453 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Whew!!!

    And here I thought this was gonna be another it's all Sarq's fault thread.

    Good to know Sark finds time away from Kim/Puppy/Yogi/GekkoMojo to let you suck his balls.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    It's good to see that It's all Lambo... er Gilby.. er Try....er Sarq's fault threads will never die with this fan base.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773
    This is a Pac-12 non-conference scheduling bashing thread. LEAVE!