Question for roaddog and the others who think we'll be absolutely terrible in 2015

AZDuck

That's kind of my point as well. Now that Peterman is in the big league, there wasn't anything I can point to from Year 1 and say "okay, I see improvement here" or what have you. The offense regressed, and the defense was porous despite having all those NFL draft picks. I get that there was a big adjustment and a Sark hangover, I was just surprised at how "meh" last year's Huskies were.

SpoonieLuv

Is there any way that Petersen had a single roster top to bottom with more talent in his tenure at BSU than he has on this current roster at UW?

Even Sark squeezed 7 wins out of a decent roster of mainly Ty recruits his second season - if Peterman can't match what fucking sark did in year two then I think 2016 will be a make or break season for him.

I've said before that I don't really care about 2015's W-L but I guess that's a bit of a lie - if he cant get past 6 wins and a bowl appearance I'll be skeptical of him being The Guy.

HFNY

Huh? In his first season, Sarkisian went 5-7 with Jake Locker at QB while Petersen went 8-6 with Miles (12 starts), Lindquist (1 start), and Williams (1 start).

Plus Sarkisian's 2009 class sucked because he was getting FREE PUB! at USC...that was very troubling while Petersen and Co. were grown-ups and secured a pretty good class to set themselves up for more success going forward rather than putting a big whole in the roster.

greenblood said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Utah State, Sac State, OSU, and WSU. Four games that we should win right there. After that Cal, Utah, Arizona all at home. Win at least 2 of those. 6 wins. @BallSacked likes Cal and I know they have Goff, but they have no defense and a terrible coach. Boise State or another unlikely upset on the road is 7.

@Gladstone, I'm not sure why you feel I'm the poster boy for thinking we will suck. I just thought, "It's year two and all great coaches take off in year 2" was simplistic and unlikely. We will suck. Just like we sucked last year and under Sark. In my mind, finishing in the middle of the Pac 12 and playing in a dreckfest bowl = your team sucks.

Why does that number seem so familiar?

I am curious how Petersen is getting a pass for having a mirrior image Sark season, with another next year being predicted? Yet Sark got obliterated by everyone me included.

RoadDawg55

greenblood said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Utah State, Sac State, OSU, and WSU. Four games that we should win right there. After that Cal, Utah, Arizona all at home. Win at least 2 of those. 6 wins. @BallSacked likes Cal and I know they have Goff, but they have no defense and a terrible coach. Boise State or another unlikely upset on the road is 7.

@Gladstone, I'm not sure why you feel I'm the poster boy for thinking we will suck. I just thought, "It's year two and all great coaches take off in year 2" was simplistic and unlikely. We will suck. Just like we sucked last year and under Sark. In my mind, finishing in the middle of the Pac 12 and playing in a dreckfest bowl = your team sucks.

Why does that number seem so familiar?

I am curious how Petersen is getting a pass for having a mirrior image Sark season, with another next year being predicted? Yet Sark got obliterated by everyone me included.

I'm completely in LIPO mode with Petersen. I'm not convinced he's as great as many here. Any time you preside over the worst offense in te conference is a serious cause for concern. Same for last year's 8-6 record.

Boise was rolling before he took over and they are rolling now. Thinking Petersen will lead us to the top and past Oregon, or even Stanford is wishful thinking at this point.

That said, the talent this year sucks. Sark had multiple years and nothing ever changed. A lot of the talent issues aren't Petersen's fault. I guess I see your argument that it's Petersen's job to maximize the talent, and I agree. I'm just not sure how many coaches could actually produce more than 8 wins with what is available.

Tequilla

I get saying that the fake punt call on Stanford was terrible. To say that we win the game without that call is pressing. There was ZERO indication that the offense was going to ever score at that point.

The Arizona game came down to a lack of execution.

The bowl game summarized the season in my mind as their was zero leadership offensively particularly from the QB position.

Until we see better from the QB position, it will be a challenge to accurately judge.

I don't think the overall talent on the roster will make us uncompetitive

RaceBannon

Gilby took over a soft team from Rick and went 6-6. I think he'll do better his second year.

Ty took over a 1-10 dumpster fire from Gilby. I think he'll do better his second year.

Sark took over OWENFUCKINGTWELVE. I think he'll do better his second year.

Petermen took over from Sark - this is the problem - no patience and I just don't fucking care anymore. Winners win. Win or don't. fuck it we're stuck with him. Pat Haden isn't walking through that door again.


Rick took over from Lambo who lost to Hawaii in a bowl and lost the team and won the Rose Bowl his second year. Still trying to find someone as good as the guy who ruined Husky Football

Fuck

RoadDawg55

Tequilla said:

I get saying that the fake punt call on Stanford was terrible. To say that we win the game without that call is pressing. There was ZERO indication that the offense was going to ever score at that point.

The Arizona game came down to a lack of execution.

The bowl game summarized the season in my mind as their was zero leadership offensively particularly from the QB position.

Until we see better from the QB position, it will be a challenge to accurately judge.

I don't think the overall talent on the roster will make us uncompetitive

If Travis Coons just hit a couple FG's, we would have won 9 games in 2012.

HFNY

What gives me the most hope is that the 2014 and 2015 classes were deliberately constructed to enhance the overall talent, depth, and balance of the roster going forward. We are stuck with Babushka another year but he easily could be gone if he has another crappy offensive year but those players have at least two more years with the program.

I mean fuck, Sarkisian signed QBs Nick Montana in 2010 and Joseph Gray Derrick Brown in 2011. He also signed just 2 OL in his 2011 class (both are our lone RS-SRs now) and Tufunga didn't have any other offers.

His 2012 class was his worst (besides the 2009 class with ZERO OL). He signed 25 guys but as RS-JRs and true SRs, 11 are already gone with 6 never having played a single down for UW. That's nearly 1 out of every 4 players...purely vomit.

Tequilla said:

I get saying that the fake punt call on Stanford was terrible. To say that we win the game without that call is pressing. There was ZERO indication that the offense was going to ever score at that point.

The Arizona game came down to a lack of execution.

The bowl game summarized the season in my mind as their was zero leadership offensively particularly from the QB position.

Until we see better from the QB position, it will be a challenge to accurately judge.

I don't think the overall talent on the roster will make us uncompetitive

BallSacked

AZDuck said:

That's kind of my point as well. Now that Peterman is in the big league, there wasn't anything I can point to from Year 1 and say "okay, I see improvement here" or what have you. The offense regressed, and the defense was porous despite having all those NFL draft picks. I get that there was a big adjustment and a Sark hangover, I was just surprised at how "meh" last year's Huskies were.

Kind of agree with "meh". It seemed like UW struggled to play with energy last year. That should be more concerning than losing a game because Cooper fumbled it away like a fucktard. Some players really brought it every play (DS HK), but collectively they were hit or miss there especially in the scrimmages and the bowl. Maybe that's entirely due to purging out the Sark Stench. CCPs public quotes point to that.

SpoonieLuv

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

I get saying that the fake punt call on Stanford was terrible. To say that we win the game without that call is pressing. There was ZERO indication that the offense was going to ever score at that point.

The Arizona game came down to a lack of execution.

The bowl game summarized the season in my mind as their was zero leadership offensively particularly from the QB position.

Until we see better from the QB position, it will be a challenge to accurately judge.

I don't think the overall talent on the roster will make us uncompetitive

Quite honestly If Travis Coons just hit a couple FG's, we would have won 9 games in 2012.