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Some WA State Teachers Are Striking
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They want 3% pay raises (even though inflation has been nearly non-existent) and they want more money towards their health care yet they already have overly generous health care benefits.
Take a look at the WA State payrolls for Public Education, sort by total compensation, and then tell me if they really need more? I got too disgusted by elementary school teachers making nearly $100k to keep going:
data.spokesman.com/salaries/schools/2014/all-employees/
Take a look at the WA State payrolls for Public Education, sort by total compensation, and then tell me if they really need more? I got too disgusted by elementary school teachers making nearly $100k to keep going:
data.spokesman.com/salaries/schools/2014/all-employees/
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It is more disturbing when those same administrators send their own children to private schools.
The special taxes to pay for them are still collected.
Inslee wants to keep those taxes and add new taxes so teachers can begin receiving what they should have been receiving for 8 years now... which will never be made up.
Yes, admin salaries and staffing have exploded in the meantime... which is truly curious since all public curriculum and 'pacing guidelines' now come from the state. Really, we only need one State teacher for each grade... and beam it into every classroom for this fucked up teaching method to continue.
If teachers who teach your snotty kids to read and write shouldn't make a good salary...I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on who should. You want to pay teachers less and cut their benefits? Seems like a good model to attract top talent.....
Or are you jealous because you don't make very much and think others shouldn't either?
Seriously, fuck those cunts. They need to make 7.11 per hour.
Stacie Ann Kang Ricard Highline School District Elementary Teacher $104,287 $21,550 $9,572 $135,409
$104,287 is this elementary's base salary, her "bonus" / stipend is $21,550, and her insurance / benefits are $9,572. Of course, this doesn't include her future pension costs or future health care costs.
The problem I have is that we have a bloated public school system with too many assistant principals and then teachers making significantly more than the average household income of Seattle (not WA State or the Puget Sound, but SEATTLE).
Teachers also get generous vacations and 3 months off in the summer. Exactly how do you explain that?
And of course I'm not jealous, who would want to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and know that they are fleecing hard working regular Joes and Janes in the private sector who are struggling to make ends meet? To pay for their excessive compensation packages, your average Joe and Jane have to fork over more in taxes.
I find people's anger interesting.
BTW....you are posting in the middle of the work day saying you are a hard working Joe struggling to make ends meet.
And can you quote me where I said I am personally struggling to make ends meet? Or, more accurately, was that another attempt to take a swipe at me because you disagree? To me, I like it when people try to get personal because it lets me know they are losing the factual debate.
Anyway, care to address the fact that an elementary school teacher is making over $104,000 in base salary for working 9 months (not including 2 weeks vacay for winter, 1 for spring break, and multiple shorter holidays? Or would you rather continue to divert towards personal swipes?
Nice to have a job where you can get paid and be on the internet huh. (insert faggoty wink here)
I am not a teacher nor a public employee in Washington.
I did find the salary schedule and hers doesn't match at all.....so somebody is wrong. Have no clue how her base is allegedly that high. Maybe the Principal was out for half the year and she served as Interim...I don't know. Maybe the data is wrong.
http://www.highlineschools.org/cms/lib07/WA01919413/Centricity/Domain/83/2013-14 Certificated Salary Schedule w-TRI 2013-08-27.pdf
The year before she made $53K....year before that she made $51K
I have to imagine that that the salary schedule is very general and there are ways around it, especially if one has been in the system awhile and knows how to game it. Anyway, the published numbers of her specific compensation package are more likely correct than a general schedule.
Returning to risk vs. reward, it is also absurd that someone in such a low risk job (teachers rarely get fired, even in a recession) merits such excessive compensation. Some people work year round and finally reach $130k in total pay yet can be laid-off in an instance if the economy tanks.
It used to be that public sector jobs used to offer tremendous stability and good benefits in return for lower pay. As the public sector unions have grown outsized in political influence, the pay is now excessive, the benefits have gone from good to great, and they still have the tremendous stability. Of course to pay for it, they raise taxes on people in the private sector...the ones with the tenuous job stability, the same pay for 12 months of work, and 401ks and higher co-pays instead of guaranteed pensions and low (or no) co-pays.
As Bill Gates might say, IT DOES NOT COMPUTE@!!#@!@!@
Everybody has their thing.
I wouldn't make it five days as a teacher. Mostly, because many low income families treat school like government paid day care. What Johnny gets taught at school won't help him squat if his parents aren't there to help him apply it, or even provide some sort of parenting that teaches the kid responsibility. A lot of these kids go to school for 7 hours, dick around, then get home and play video games for the next 7-10 hours before bed. The parents aren't there to make sure homework is done, or even make sure the kid reads a damn comic book.
There are some middle and high school teachers that have to deal with kids that read at a first grade level. And now that schools try to use inclusion (putting high level kids and low level kids in the same classroom) Teachers have a whole new problem. How do you teach Johnny who reads at a first grade level, but not dumb it down enough that the high level kids also have to read "Cat in the Hat"?
Teachers deal with a lot of crap that most people would consider their greatest nightmare.