Official IF Romar Steps Down Who Do You Hire if You are Pool Boy Thread
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NBA guys usually do well because 'they know the NBA' and that attracts players, who like their connections. Mac10 literally just came to me last night.
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Woody will forever lose the name Pool Boy if he has the balls to call Romar in at the end of this season and say "Shall we do this the easy way (resign and help keep the team together) or the hard way (GTFO)?"FreeChavez said:I don't see smart as even remotely an option, but if you could hire any of the people freemont put on the list this year, you fire romar(errrrr, give him a chance to resign). Every one of those guys would keep the recruiting class intact.
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Who gives a shit about keeping Murray if you have a shitty coach?ThomasFremont said:
Smart is a long shot. But you make the call and make him say no before crossing him off.FreeChavez said:I don't see smart as even remotely an option, but if you could hire any of the people freemont put on the list this year, you fire romar(errrrr, give him a chance to resign). Every one of those guys would keep the recruiting class intact.
IF Romar was replaced, the new HC just has to keep Murray. The other local guys would come to UW anyways. Maybe the CA big guy needs some convincing too, but Murray is the prize. -
3 coaches in the Pac 12 from Montana pipeline. Just sayin
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Huh?SevenEleven said:
Who gives a shit about keeping Murray if you have a shitty coach?ThomasFremont said:
Smart is a long shot. But you make the call and make him say no before crossing him off.FreeChavez said:I don't see smart as even remotely an option, but if you could hire any of the people freemont put on the list this year, you fire romar(errrrr, give him a chance to resign). Every one of those guys would keep the recruiting class intact.
IF Romar was replaced, the new HC just has to keep Murray. The other local guys would come to UW anyways. Maybe the CA big guy needs some convincing too, but Murray is the prize.
I said: "IF Romar was replaced, the new HC just has to keep Murray."
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I think DeCurie is going to end up being a solid coach as well. First season with the Griz and tied for first in the Big Sky. I think he went to hs somewhere on the east side. Don't think he's ready for the P12 at this point though.NeGgaPlEaSe said:3 coaches in the Pac 12 from Montana pipeline. Just sayin
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You can't win without talent, and last time i checked murray has a lot of talent. Romar needs him, any program who wants to win isn't winning with winters as your future.SevenEleven said:
Who gives a shit about keeping Murray if you have a shitty coach?ThomasFremont said:
Smart is a long shot. But you make the call and make him say no before crossing him off.FreeChavez said:I don't see smart as even remotely an option, but if you could hire any of the people freemont put on the list this year, you fire romar(errrrr, give him a chance to resign). Every one of those guys would keep the recruiting class intact.
IF Romar was replaced, the new HC just has to keep Murray. The other local guys would come to UW anyways. Maybe the CA big guy needs some convincing too, but Murray is the prize.
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I don't know if jason mccleary still poasts on DM.c but he seemed to be one of the only people who really was in the know of high school kids and coaches. He has been very high on travis for a long time. I don't know much about assistants but he seemed to always talk about him being a solid option in the future.
It would be tough for UW to swallow him as the option after romar, but we also have to be serious about our options. Fucking UCLA got alford. Either they are certifiably insane, or the market wasn't nearly as good as many assume to come out west. -
Unless it produces a final four, Murray's 1 and done season isn't worth holding the program hostage over.
Think back to when we got surefire 1 and done Wroten with Ross returning.
Had we known that would be worth an NIT would we have rather fired Romar and lost Wroten? I say yes. -
I'm not so sure he's one and done. He got passed over by the McD's AA game, so he needs to have a huge freshman season to get his name out there on the draft radar. He isn't as selfish as Wroten, so the stats might not be as lopsided. Good for a team, not so good for his draft stock.Doogles said:Unless it produces a final four, Murray's 1 and done season isn't worth holding the program hostage over.
Think back to when we got surefire 1 and done Wroten with Ross returning.
Had we known that would be worth an NIT would we have rather fired Romar and lost Wroten? I say yes.
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Ernesto.
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That would be freaking beautiful. Wonder if they would allow the sombreros to become an every game tradition?TierbsHsotBoobs said:Ernesto.
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What about Ben Howland or is he toxic?
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I think Howland would be a good get. I know others disagree. You can't argue with 3 final 4's. He did well at Pitt too and set a good foundation.HFNY said:What about Ben Howland or is he toxic?
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I would certainly take him over Romar but wouldn't exactly celebrate the hire. His offense is utter shit and by the end of his reign seemed to be universally loathed by local LA hs coaches.
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Half his team quit on him towards the end.Gladstone said:I would certainly take him over Romar but wouldn't exactly celebrate the hire. His offense is utter shit and by the end of his reign seemed to be universally loathed by local LA hs coaches.
He was letting Reeves Nelson beat the shit out of his own teammates. -
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But does that cancel out what he did before that point? He definitely hit a lull at UCLA and was deservedly fired considering the standards at UCLA. That said, they are no better off, and most likely worse off with Alford instead of Howland.ThomasFremont said:
Half his team quit on him towards the end.Gladstone said:I would certainly take him over Romar but wouldn't exactly celebrate the hire. His offense is utter shit and by the end of his reign seemed to be universally loathed by local LA hs coaches.
He was letting Reeves Nelson beat the shit out of his own teammates.
If given a choice, I prefer up tempo basketball, but winning is all that really matters. Howland is a strong defensive coach who should be able to recruit considering the players he has currently in the NBA. I would imagine selling Westbrook to guards would be a big sell. Same for selling Kevin Love to white big guys
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I'm just not a fan of hiring guys who were recently fired for failing to meet expectations at other programs.
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Corpse of Rick Majerus spotted at Seatac?!?!?!?!bananasnblondes said:I'm just not a fan of hiring guys who were recently fired for failing to meet expectations at other programs.
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Howland is a terrible idea ... Please stop pedaling that shit
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It's just message board talk. Stop being a cunt.Tequilla said:Howland is a terrible idea ... Please stop pedaling that shit
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The difference is Ty Willie didn't have anything equivalent to three final 4's.bananasnblondes said:I'm just not a fan of hiring guys who were recently fired for failing to meet expectations at other programs.
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Howland hired great assistants in his first 3-4 years whom he respected and helped him identify "diamond in the rough" types, most notably Westbrook and Mbah a Moute, in addition to touted recruits. The fact that he converted Ryan Hollins from a complete turd under Lavin to Regional Finals MVP who would move on to a decent NBA future speaks to his ability. His assistants graduated to better jobs and their replacements were not as capable and were unable to challenge Howland's leadership after UCLA's run of success.RoadDawg55 said:But does that cancel out what he did before that point? He definitely hit a lull at UCLA and was deservedly fired considering the standards at UCLA. That said, they are no better off, and most likely worse off with Alford instead of Howland.
If given a choice, I prefer up tempo basketball, but winning is all that really matters. Howland is a strong defensive coach who should be able to recruit considering the players he has currently in the NBA. I would imagine selling Westbrook to guards would be a big sell. Same for selling Kevin Love to white big guys.
OTOH, not being able to win a title with Westbrook, Collison, Love, and Mbah a Moute speaks to his offensive limitations. His compass for OKoG players was completely backwards after his Final Four runs; the following season's #1 ranked recruiting class was a complete clusterfuck and Howland later went all in on Reeves Nelson and Josh Smith (a fat guy from Washington now at Georgetown) and lost. Tyler Honeycutt and Malcolm Lee were decent players who needed to stay longer, but left early for NBA D-League anonymity anyway because they didn't like playing for Howland.
Howland acted classy and continues to represent UCLA well, but was a notorious chap-ass with the media and had half of the athletic dept. despising him at the end. (not necessarily a bad thing) The best thing I could say about bringing Howland to UW is that Kim would HATE him almost instantly. -
You should be better than even suggesting that ...RoadDawg55 said:
It's just message board talk. Stop being a cunt.Tequilla said:Howland is a terrible idea ... Please stop pedaling that shit
As was pointed out elsewhere, it's the equivalent of hiring Tyrone to the basketball program.
Part of the fabric of this place is looking at things from a fair and objective standpoint where the priority is on results (and if they don't take place understanding why they aren't) as opposed to just having blind faith following.
Howland's a terrible idea. There's a reason he hasn't been picked up elsewhere by another Power Conference program. -
Tony Bennett. My sources tell me his wife loves the rain he's itching to get out of the ACC...
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Ernie Kent should be options 1, 2, and 3TierbsHsotBoobs said:Ernesto.
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I didn't suggest it. He would be a decent option though because the guys suggested would likely say no. He's far from perfect but he's a proven winner.Tequilla said:
You should be better than even suggesting that ...RoadDawg55 said:
It's just message board talk. Stop being a cunt.Tequilla said:Howland is a terrible idea ... Please stop pedaling that shit
As was pointed out elsewhere, it's the equivalent of hiring Tyrone to the basketball program.
Part of the fabric of this place is looking at things from a fair and objective standpoint where the priority is on results (and if they don't take place understanding why they aren't) as opposed to just having blind faith following.
Howland's a terrible idea. There's a reason he hasn't been picked up elsewhere by another Power Conference program.
You are directly contradicting yourself. Results? Howland has been to 3 Final 4's and had success in three different stops. Do those not count because he fired?
Tyrone was a barely over .500 coach (if that) who went 7-5 in his Rose Bowl season.
The only similarity is they have both been fired. Howland has had one offseason since being fired from UCLA. He's made good money and might not be in a rush to coach in a power conference. -
Howland would certainly be an upgrade to Romar. I'd hope we could do better, but if not, so be it. At least Howland knows what the Final 4 smells like and what it takes to get there, something that no UW coach can say (other than as a spectator).
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Exactly.HuskyInAZ said:Howland would certainly be an upgrade to Romar. I'd hope we could do better, but if not, so be it. At least Howland knows what the Final 4 smells like and what it takes to get there, something that no UW coach can say (other than as a spectator).
