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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You'll all be 10s when they win the World Series

    I already am a 10
    Husky football and Mariner fan, hard to decide which one is more painful

    I'm a 6

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    Great Het bestand wat u zocht bestaat niet of is verwijderd.




    U word na 5 seconden doorverwezen naar de hoofpagina as always.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You'll all be 10s when they win the World Series

    I already am a 10
    Husky football and Mariner fan, hard to decide which one is more painful

    I'm a 6

    image

    Great Het bestand wat u zocht bestaat niet of is verwijderd.




    U word na 5 seconden doorverwezen naar de hoofpagina as always.
    huh?
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  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,538 Founders Club
    Fuck guys! This is so fucking irritating. Enough with this fucking shit. Embed pictures properly or GTFO.
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Lol at M's fans expecting playoffs or bust. The team does look better, but this hasn't exactly been a successful organization. Yankees and Red Sox fans can be disappointed if their team doesn't make the playoffs, M's fans cannot.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    SteveInShelton said:

    Lol at M's fans expecting playoffs or bust. The team does look better, but this hasn't exactly been a successful organization. Yankees and Red Sox fans can be disappointed if their team doesn't make the playoffs, M's fans cannot.

    I get that. But if you simply compare the rosters, the mariners should be a playoff team.
    If they miss the playoffs it's a failed season
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,390 Standard Supporter
    I think it's very possible that the M's overachieved last year and revert back to being an under .500 team. Overachieved is probably the wrong word, but they are typically so bad that I will use it. I'm still scarred by the 2010 season when they acquired Cliff Lee after a winning record in 2009.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I think it's very possible that the M's overachieved last year and revert back to being an under .500 team. Overachieved is probably the wrong word, but they are typically so bad that I will use it. I'm still scarred by the 2010 season when they acquired Cliff Lee after a winning record in 2009.

    I'm not sure where you're expecting the regression. Who had years last year that would make you say "wow, they really out performed their normal ability level?"
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,390 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I think it's very possible that the M's overachieved last year and revert back to being an under .500 team. Overachieved is probably the wrong word, but they are typically so bad that I will use it. I'm still scarred by the 2010 season when they acquired Cliff Lee after a winning record in 2009.

    I'm not sure where you're expecting the regression. Who had years last year that would make you say "wow, they really out performed their normal ability level?"
    We are talking about the Mariners. Questions at shortstop, first base, and the outfield. Cano's power decline is at least a little concerning.

    Felix reverts back to a 3.00 ERA instead of 2.30. Iwakuma was terrible in September. Walker and Paxton are still unproven and Paxton has been injury prone. Chris Young was pretty valuable last season. The bullpen was outstanding last year. They likely take a step back.

    They might be better, but there are still tons of question marks. I get why they will be better. Oakland rebuilding helps too. We will see what happens.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,794 Founders Club
    I don't think the pitching can sustain that type of success. I'm just used to being disappointed.

    Someone mentioned a while back a truth that hurts. If the Mariners didn't win one with griffey, edgar, arod, and Randy, they never will.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Doogles said:

    I don't think the pitching can sustain that type of success. I'm just used to being disappointed.

    Someone mentioned a while back a truth that hurts. If the Mariners didn't win one with griffey, edgar, arod, and Randy, they never will.

    Problem is that the Mariners of that time period were not only too cheap to build up the depth that they needed, but they also were way behind in recognizing the future of the game.

    The case in point of that was the Tino Martinez trade for Russ Davis and Sterling Hitchcock. No huge problems with that deal as it was set up ... but huge problems in including Jeff Nelson in that deal. But then again, that's why the Yankees are the Yankees (at least at that point in time).
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