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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Prospects are Gabby Guerrero and a spare SS in AA that is blocked by Miller/Taylor/Marte.
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Tequilla said:

    Trumbo deal is interesting ... Castillo and Leone aren't much to give up ... question is who are the two prospects?

    Guerrero is a pretty solid prospect, but he would obviously bust in Seattle because Mariners. Trumbo could be a decent power hitter in the lineup, he's a consistent 30 HR guy who was injured last year. 9 HR's in 40 games this year is pretty good.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Trumbo sucks, but Z gonna Z, I guess.

    I don't hate Nuno though, they just started Montgomery, rotation depth is a huge organizational need. I approve of that part of the deal. He'll be a better Mariner than Trumbo will.

    Moving Castillo is weird, but I'm not going to bitch about losing the backup catcher. Leone only hurts since you've moved like five relievers in the past three months. He's not especially valuable. Rennheimer is Chris Taylor light, which is to say he sucks. Guerrero is the big name prospect here, and I'm sure he'll blow up now that he's been dealt, but he's always been highly overrated just because of his bloodlines. I like him but don't love him.

    Overall we upgraded our starting pitching depth while downgrading our catching depth. And we acquired another Jack Z specialty immobile 1B who will be playing OF because Mariners in exchange for some bullpen and MI depth and a good but not great OF prospect.

    Not a terrible deal, but one that says nothing but "we're desperate!"
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  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    Who in here will admit to buying at least one ticket this year?
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,504
    Who is going to be the back-up catcher now and are they going to release Ricky Weeks?

    Sucre is an awful hitter so I hope JZ finds someone better than him.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    HFNY said:

    Who is going to be the back-up catcher now and are they going to release Ricky Weeks?

    Sucre is an awful hitter so I hope JZ finds someone better than him.

    I don't believe I've ever met anyone who cares who the backup catcher is as much as you do.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,504
    I heard a stat that Zunino is hitting over .300 after days he has off and since he's still struggling to consistently hit MLB pitching, giving him a few more days off a month would help...unless the back-up is awful with the stick like Sucre.

    Do you agree that Rickie Weeks is the most likely casualty?

    What will be interesting to see is if Trumbo's addition will get us (I'm part of the team!!!!) more juice from the LF spot. Ackley has been terrible there bat-wise and Smith will be 33 in September and is just a spot starter at RF / LF other than DH'ing.

    One other thing of note: The M's have hit RHP significantly better and Trumbo is RH....he still hits RH Pitching a lot better than Ackley though.
    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    Who is going to be the back-up catcher now and are they going to release Ricky Weeks?

    Sucre is an awful hitter so I hope JZ finds someone better than him.

    I don't believe I've ever met anyone who cares who the backup catcher is as much as you do.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Yeah I think it's Weeks
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    d2d said:

    Who in here will admit to buying at least one ticket this year?

    For more or less than face value?


    I turned down a Diamond Club ticket today for $40. True story.

    Come to think of it, what the fuck was I thinking? The buffet there is worth $40.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,388 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Trumbo sucks, but Z gonna Z, I guess.

    I don't hate Nuno though, they just started Montgomery, rotation depth is a huge organizational need. I approve of that part of the deal. He'll be a better Mariner than Trumbo will.

    Moving Castillo is weird, but I'm not going to bitch about losing the backup catcher. Leone only hurts since you've moved like five relievers in the past three months. He's not especially valuable. Rennheimer is Chris Taylor light, which is to say he sucks. Guerrero is the big name prospect here, and I'm sure he'll blow up now that he's been dealt, but he's always been highly overrated just because of his bloodlines. I like him but don't love him.

    Overall we upgraded our starting pitching depth while downgrading our catching depth. And we acquired another Jack Z specialty immobile 1B who will be playing OF because Mariners in exchange for some bullpen and MI depth and a good but not great OF prospect.

    Not a terrible deal, but one that says nothing but "we're desperate!"

    Nuno could become a solid #4 or #5 starter. I like that part of the trade. Trumbo is meh. Cruz is the first RH power hitter to do well playing at Safeco. Trumbo doesn't offer much at the plate other than power and he's a bad outfielder.

    I don't think we gave up anything of tremendous value, but this article outlines why Trumbo doesn't really help.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/58920/mark-trumbo-doesnt-fix-mariners-problem
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