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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Gallardo had a mid 3 ERA pitching in the NATIONAL LEAGUE in a division with a few teams last year that couldn't hit their way out of a wet paper bag. He had an ERA over 4 in 2013. I would somewhat surprised if he kept his ERA under 4 in Texas. He could easily find himself giving up 25-30 HRs pitching in Arlington. He's no longer the guy that strikes out a guy per inning (which isn't going to be helped by facing a DH instead of a pitcher) and you could very easily point to his abnormally lower walk rate last year as the reason for his mid 3 ERA as anything else. His batting average against has been .261 each of the last 2 years .. wouldn't shock me if it goes up into the .265 to .270 range this year. Just don't see it with him.

    I completely disagree about the floor for the Mariners. The worst case scenario for them is IF they have significant injuries in the rotation. They have 6 MLB caliber starters right now. I think they need to find 1 more between now and the start of the season. They will increase their rotation by the trade deadline (most likely in a package that moves Walker and one of their high end minor league OFs). Regardless of what Cruz does this year, it will be a massive upgrade compared to what they got at the DH spot last year. It will be next to impossible for them to get worse production from the SS spot. If Zunino improves at all, there's a 3rd offensive spot where you'll get improvement. The Smith/Ruggiano platoon will be far more productive than what the Mariners produced last year. I haven't even touched on getting anywhere close to historical production from Austin Jackson (who I do think that there's reason to be concerned about him going forward) or if Ackley can take the next step like he showed in the 2nd half of the season. Seager is Seager. Cano is Cano. LoMo could be about to hit his prime. The pen will still be very good even if it takes a slight step back. 22 games were started last year by a shit sandwich of starters (and that's not counting in the pen games). .500 would probably be the floor for them in my mind. They are one of the more well built teams from top to bottom that I see in baseball at the moment and a team that I'd say is a 90+ win team. Remember, I said that they'd be 85+ last year. If everything breaks right for this team, I could see them in the 95-100 range.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    Gallardo had a mid 3 ERA pitching in the NATIONAL LEAGUE in a division with a few teams last year that couldn't hit their way out of a wet paper bag. He had an ERA over 4 in 2013. I would somewhat surprised if he kept his ERA under 4 in Texas. He could easily find himself giving up 25-30 HRs pitching in Arlington. He's no longer the guy that strikes out a guy per inning (which isn't going to be helped by facing a DH instead of a pitcher) and you could very easily point to his abnormally lower walk rate last year as the reason for his mid 3 ERA as anything else. His batting average against has been .261 each of the last 2 years .. wouldn't shock me if it goes up into the .265 to .270 range this year. Just don't see it with him.

    I completely disagree about the floor for the Mariners. The worst case scenario for them is IF they have significant injuries in the rotation. They have 6 MLB caliber starters right now. I think they need to find 1 more between now and the start of the season. They will increase their rotation by the trade deadline (most likely in a package that moves Walker and one of their high end minor league OFs). Regardless of what Cruz does this year, it will be a massive upgrade compared to what they got at the DH spot last year. It will be next to impossible for them to get worse production from the SS spot. If Zunino improves at all, there's a 3rd offensive spot where you'll get improvement. The Smith/Ruggiano platoon will be far more productive than what the Mariners produced last year. I haven't even touched on getting anywhere close to historical production from Austin Jackson (who I do think that there's reason to be concerned about him going forward) or if Ackley can take the next step like he showed in the 2nd half of the season. Seager is Seager. Cano is Cano. LoMo could be about to hit his prime. The pen will still be very good even if it takes a slight step back. 22 games were started last year by a shit sandwich of starters (and that's not counting in the pen games). .500 would probably be the floor for them in my mind. They are one of the more well built teams from top to bottom that I see in baseball at the moment and a team that I'd say is a 90+ win team. Remember, I said that they'd be 85+ last year. If everything breaks right for this team, I could see them in the 95-100 range.

    Don't tell RoadDawg, but regression to the mean can be a good thing.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    In the case of the Mariners, regression to the mean is probably to their benefit.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,388 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.

    I'm a box score guy. I haven't watched a Mariner's game in years.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.

    I'm a box score guy. I haven't watched a Mariner's game in years.
    We can all tell.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,388 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.

    I'm a box score guy. I haven't watched a Mariner's game in years.
    We can all tell.
    I don't need to watch to know that the Mariners' season is over.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.

    I'm a box score guy. I haven't watched a Mariner's game in years.
    We can all tell.
    I don't need to watch to know that the Mariners' season is over.
    You should leave Sven's material to Sven.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,388 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    For someone who claims to hate baseball, @RoadDawg55 sure likes to pop off.

    I'm a box score guy. I haven't watched a Mariner's game in years.
    We can all tell.
    I don't need to watch to know that the Mariners' season is over.
    You should leave Sven's material to Sven.
    It's the rare topic in which Sven and I agree.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773
    So how bout them Yankees?
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