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Maybe Peterman is What You Want Helfrich To Be
AZDuck
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I watched Boise's game against Arizona, and their undersized (6'0") QB took the Wildcat secondary apart. His passes were clean and thrown with good velocity, made good reads and decisions, and he showed the ability to beat the defense with his feet as well as his arm.
Yet, under Peterman, this kid rode the pine behind Joe fucking Southwick, who, as you may recall from your games against Boise, sucks.
Boise appeared to be in decline in Peterman's last year on the blue carpet, and his final year was his worst. Yet for whatever reason Grant Hedrick never got the starting nod, and for whatever reason was not "the guy" although his competition at the position was lackluster at best.
After the first few shaky games under Bryan Harsin (Kellen Moore's old QB coach), Hedrick and the Boise offense went on a tear, winning their last nine in a row including the Fiesta Bowel win.
Last night, I saw a Washington team that has seemingly regressed.While Miles had looked better in the some of the latter games of the season, he stumbled around the field like a old hippie looking for kind bud at the Oregon Cuntry Fair last night. Where is the fucking coaching?
Yes, the players are limited in their potential - but you got out-coached and out-hustled by I'm a man I'm 40 and a true freshman. Player of the game was a redneck William "Fridge" Perry. It's fun and a longstanding doog tradition to hate the kids - but there is no indication of player development or motivation - although it looks like whatever Peterman said to the team at halftime helped, I'll give him that.
Increrasingly, I'm led to believe that Peterman's flashy record was the work of his hard-working QB coach and Kellen Moore, the beneficiary of the system in place at Boise that leads to strong results against weaker competition and targeting two or three good teams a year. I'm not seeing a coach that has utilized his talent effectively or built a cohesive team in year one. Agree that it can take some time to do this, but watching Cyler Miles and Grant Hedrick play this bowel season, and I'm not sold on Peterman at all.
Yet, under Peterman, this kid rode the pine behind Joe fucking Southwick, who, as you may recall from your games against Boise, sucks.
Boise appeared to be in decline in Peterman's last year on the blue carpet, and his final year was his worst. Yet for whatever reason Grant Hedrick never got the starting nod, and for whatever reason was not "the guy" although his competition at the position was lackluster at best.
After the first few shaky games under Bryan Harsin (Kellen Moore's old QB coach), Hedrick and the Boise offense went on a tear, winning their last nine in a row including the Fiesta Bowel win.
Last night, I saw a Washington team that has seemingly regressed.While Miles had looked better in the some of the latter games of the season, he stumbled around the field like a old hippie looking for kind bud at the Oregon Cuntry Fair last night. Where is the fucking coaching?
Yes, the players are limited in their potential - but you got out-coached and out-hustled by I'm a man I'm 40 and a true freshman. Player of the game was a redneck William "Fridge" Perry. It's fun and a longstanding doog tradition to hate the kids - but there is no indication of player development or motivation - although it looks like whatever Peterman said to the team at halftime helped, I'll give him that.
Increrasingly, I'm led to believe that Peterman's flashy record was the work of his hard-working QB coach and Kellen Moore, the beneficiary of the system in place at Boise that leads to strong results against weaker competition and targeting two or three good teams a year. I'm not seeing a coach that has utilized his talent effectively or built a cohesive team in year one. Agree that it can take some time to do this, but watching Cyler Miles and Grant Hedrick play this bowel season, and I'm not sold on Peterman at all.
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This staff came in with the reputation
of teachers and developers, yet I saw
little, particularly among every offensive
position group. Absolutely no creativity
in the playcalling and the execution was
sloppy. Throw in the total lack of discipline
regarding penalties and you have a coaching
staff who badly underperformed.
At the least, next year identify a fucking offensive
philosophy and go with it. I don't care if it's
Oregon spread or Georgia Tech old school, but
fit it to the talent and simplify it.
Nothing is concrete yet, but it's fair to assume Peterman is a system coach.
Fuck ya!
It took Oregon 20 years to get here.
This isn't microwave popcorn.
But the lack of mental preparation for the bowl game combined with the lack of development of any UW QB to at least "serviceable" is shocking. Then I went back and looked at Boise and how well their RS senior QB developed this year, vice the dreck that was Joe Southwick.
The notion here is that Mariota and the Chip Kelly paint fumes in the building coached Oregon to 13-1. That's bullshit, and I think Helfrich came into his own as a head coach this season after the Arizona game, and I think he's going to do well at Oregon, even after Mariota leaves. Maybe not 13-1 well, but well enough.
OTOH, a big chunk of Peterman's 92-12 record that is so often touted here came while Kellen Moore and Bryan Harsin were with him in Boise. Afterwards, there was a decline, which became pretty steep in his last year, by Boise standards.
You'd think that there would be something you could point to, a win that Washington got where they were outmatched, or a game where the team faced some kind of adversity and overcame it, or some player development at a key position. Didn't really happen. The 5-stars like Kikaha and Shelton played up to their talent, but at key positions like RB and QB, there wasn't anything to show me that coaching has been happening, relative to the coaching hype.
That's not a championship hire. I don't mind a first time OC, but he better at least be a position coach at a school with an explosive offense.
I am still LIPO with Helfrich because he has an AK-47 in a knife fight with Mariotta... But his recruiting thus far has been pretty fucking solid so it leads me to believe that Oregon will be fine under his wing.
We had players trying to strangle coaches and a bunch of pussies due to dude brahs "what a cool culture man" approach. At leadt Chip left Helfrich with one of the best cultures he constructed over his tenure.
Petersen may very well be a fraud but year 1 of trying to take over this shit slop doesn't hold a lot of weight. As Roaddawg alluded to there are way to many examples of good coaches he had a shitty year 1, 2 or even 3 before really installing their winning brand in the program. Harbaugh went 4-8, 5-7 at Stanford before he had a 8-5 season. Saban was 6-7 his first year at Bama. Todd Graham who people praise around here needed a few years etc.
L-I-P-O
Boise's success post-Peterman doesn't mean a thing.
Helfrich has proved a lot this year. Petersen hasn't. But AZ is also right in that no one was turning uw in one year.
Petersen has to do something next year to give us hope. Like finding a fucking QB that can play. And actually changing the loser culture even if they lose 4 or 5 games again