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@Tequilla - It's gonna happen by Christmas. New Year's at the very latest.
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We're looking pretty stupid right now. Just complete choke job on the part of Phoenix, Sac and NO. It remains to be seen, but that 8th spot is looking ripe for the plucking. Golden State might want to drop a few to become the 2 seed.
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@RoadDawg55
My entire line of thought was assuming that Phoenix (or some other team in the West) was going to be in the 47-50 win level. The fact that Phoenix has gone 3-7 in their last 10 and Sacramento has gone 2-8 in their last 10 has definitely moved what OKC is doing along faster.
As you also noted, OKC is also benefiting right now by some favorable scheduling. Even with a tough game like Cleveland on the schedule, they got the benefit of LBJ not playing.
1-7 in the West right now are playing at a minimum 57 win pace and for the most part have played very consistent basketball throughout the year. I'm still not convinced that OKC will get past the 8 seed this year - but it's always possible with injuries, etc.
No question at this point they are an odds on favorite to get into the playoffs. However, their season starts to get much more difficult here at the end of the month and January could be a very challenging month for them.
I also do think that you'll get another contender for that spot as the year progresses whether it be Phoenix getting their act together, New Orleans riding a maturing Anthony Davis, or Sacramento recovering when Boogie Cousins returns (vastly different team with and without him).
I'd peg OKC for somewhere in the 50-53 win range right now. -
A simple, "I was wrong and don't have the NBA dialed in" would have worked.Tequilla said:@RoadDawg55
My entire line of thought was assuming that Phoenix (or some other team in the West) was going to be in the 47-50 win level. The fact that Phoenix has gone 3-7 in their last 10 and Sacramento has gone 2-8 in their last 10 has definitely moved what OKC is doing along faster.
As you also noted, OKC is also benefiting right now by some favorable scheduling. Even with a tough game like Cleveland on the schedule, they got the benefit of LBJ not playing.
1-7 in the West right now are playing at a minimum 57 win pace and for the most part have played very consistent basketball throughout the year. I'm still not convinced that OKC will get past the 8 seed this year - but it's always possible with injuries, etc.
No question at this point they are an odds on favorite to get into the playoffs. However, their season starts to get much more difficult here at the end of the month and January could be a very challenging month for them.
I also do think that you'll get another contender for that spot as the year progresses whether it be Phoenix getting their act together, New Orleans riding a maturing Anthony Davis, or Sacramento recovering when Boogie Cousins returns (vastly different team with and without him).
I'd peg OKC for somewhere in the 50-53 win range right now. -
If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.
It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.
I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO. -
You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.Tequilla said:If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.
It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.
I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO. -
Like I said, let it play out a bit more this year. They were 59-23 last year. I don't see them finishing in that range this year. The West is even more difficult to navigate this year.RoadDawg55 said:
You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.Tequilla said:If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.
It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.
I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.
You're definitely beating your chest early here ... and there's a lot of games left to be played.
They have 23 games between now and the end of January. My guess is that they go 15-8 in that stretch. -
It's not beating my chest. You said it was the most pressing ever seen when I said they would have a spot wrapped up by the All Star break. On 12/14 they are .5 game back. You make bold predictions and you can take your back slaps when you are right, but you have been comically wrong in this thread. If you want to pretend there is still doubt, go ahead. I will happily keep bumping the thread.Tequilla said:
Like I said, let it play out a bit more this year. They were 59-23 last year. I don't see them finishing in that range this year. The West is even more difficult to navigate this year.RoadDawg55 said:
You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.Tequilla said:If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.
It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.
I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.
You're definitely beating your chest early here ... and there's a lot of games left to be played.
They have 23 games between now and the end of January. My guess is that they go 15-8 in that stretch.
No shit they won't be 59-23 this year. That was never the debate. -
When the time is right, I will be more than happy to say that I'm wrong.
But it's still way too early to say that they are in the clear to a playoff spot at this point.
If at the end of January they are sitting 3+ games up in the playoffs, I'll have no problem saying that I'm wrong.
At this point, what I'm more wrong about is not my view of OKC, but it's my view that they'd have competition at the 50 win marker. -
I for one cannot wait for six more months of Roaddawg and Tequila arguing about the NBA. Should be fun!
