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the thunder aren't gonna make the playoffs lol, they are 3-8 hitting 3-9 tonight, the suns went 48-34 and didn't get in last year, and you're insane if you think the thunder will catch the blazers
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20 Sven bucks they make the playoffs as long as Durant and Westbrook are back by Christmas. They won't be higher than a 6, but they will get in. The Blazers will he higher than the 8 seed.bigcc said:the thunder aren't gonna make the playoffs lol, they are 3-8 hitting 3-9 tonight, the suns went 48-34 and didn't get in last year, and you're insane if you think the thunder will catch the blazers
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Of the current 8 teams in the West in the playoff picture 1/8th of the way through the season, only Sacramento would be a team that you'd expect to probably not be there in the end.
They have 22 games between now and the end of the year. Let's say that they get to .500 over that stretch. That makes them 14-19 after 33 games with 49 games remaining.
If you assume that they need to get to 50 wins to just get into the playoffs as the 8th seed, they would need to go 36-13 over the remaining 49 games to get into the playoffs with most of those games against a loaded Western Conference that I would expect will do everything they can to make sure that they DON'T get into the playoffs.
Of course, if they go anything less than .500 over that remaining 22 game stretch to the end of the year, now you're looking at an even smaller margin of error. And BTW, their schedule was front loaded with the dreck of the league and they are still struggling ... so I would definitely be on the side that says that they won't make the playoffs at this point. -
Remember that not getting in with 48 wins was a very rare year. Any other year, they would have gotten in. It will certainly take 45+, but it's too early to say they need 50 wins. Tequilla, you absolutely hate the Thunder and I get it, but you always pick them to lose.
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C'mon ... stop twisting here.
There's no doubt that I hate the Bastard Sonics ... but there's nothing that I said in my post that was in any way tied to any emotions in that regard.
Take away Sacramento, who of the other 7 teams in the top 8 in the West right now would you expect to NOT end up with 50 wins?
From what I've seen of New Orleans and Phoenix, I would expect both to have a good shot at being over .500 and push in the 45-50 win range.
Plus, if I was being biased, I would have assumed that the Bastard Sonics went worse than .500 over their next 22 games given that they are 3-8 right now over an 11 game span. You could easily argue that I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. -
I'm not sure because someone will get injured. One of those teams will struggle. If Durant and Westbrook are healthy by Christmas they are going to go on a big run. By the second half of the season, half the teams will be in tank mode. The season isn't a month old.Tequilla said:C'mon ... stop twisting here.
There's no doubt that I hate the Bastard Sonics ... but there's nothing that I said in my post that was in any way tied to any emotions in that regard.
Take away Sacramento, who of the other 7 teams in the top 8 in the West right now would you expect to NOT end up with 50 wins?
From what I've seen of New Orleans and Phoenix, I would expect both to have a good shot at being over .500 and push in the 45-50 win range.
Plus, if I was being biased, I would have assumed that the Bastard Sonics went worse than .500 over their next 22 games given that they are 3-8 right now over an 11 game span. You could easily argue that I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. -
even 14-19 is a ridiculous assumption, they are 1-3 since last week, why would they suddenly start wining? Of those 22 games 11 are on the road (where they always are noticeably worse), and 14 are against teams .500 or above, which they are 1-6 against.
And thats assuming that both durant and westbrook dont suffer a setback of any sort and ease back in fairly quickly, it just simply isn't going to happen. -
Fair and valid point. I-3 in the last week with an OT loss where Jackson missed a great look at the buzzer and a 3 point loss. We'll see where they end up.bigcc said:even 14-19 is a ridiculous assumption, they are 1-3 since last week, why would they suddenly start wining? Of those 22 games 11 are on the road (where they always are noticeably worse), and 14 are against teams .500 or above, which they are 1-6 against.
And thats assuming that both durant and westbrook dont suffer a setback of any sort and ease back in fairly quickly, it just simply isn't going to happen. -
I'd also like to note the thunder have more remaining games vs. .500+ teams than any other team in the NBA, despite only one team having played more games
EDIT: They lost the OT game by 7... at home.... to the 3-6 pistons
EDIT EDIT: and they lost all 3 by at least 4 points..... -
Not trying to be annoying I just thoroughly enjoy the thunders suffering.
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The Thunder will make the playoffs but they're gonna have to run Durant and Westbrook into the ground to do it. I could even see them upsetting the 1 or 2 seed in the first round on emotion, but they're not making it out of the second round, they're going to be completely spent.
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how are they going to do that when they're coming off injuries? As soon as they're good to go they're gonna be going full time? I don't think either will be like Rose but they're not gonna rush anything. Keep in mind they won't be in basketball shape, and everyone else will be in mid-season form.
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Yeah... has going 0-3 since the last post convinced you yet that their season is over? The only team with a worse record is purposely tanking
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It's too bad for the Bastard Sonics that David Stern isn't in charge of the league anymore ... they'd be guaranteed to walk into the #1 pick.
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They are digging a hole. Still, LIPO until the two main guys come back. They could go on some big runs once they do. Or they will come back too late. Or they will be rusty and it won't click in time. It's not even December.
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In the 1986-87 season the Sonics made the playoffs with a 39-43 record and ended up advancing to the Western Conference Finals where they got swept by the Lakers 4-0. Xavier McDaniel, Tom Chambers, Dales Ellis... Back when I cared about the NBA.
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Dynamite drop-in MontyDerekJohnson said:In the 1986-87 season the Sonics made the playoffs with a 39-43 record and ended up advancing to the Western Conference Finals where they got swept by the Lakers 4-0. Xavier McDaniel, Tom Chambers, Dales Ellis... Back when I cared about the NBA.
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Tequilla said:
Dynamite drop-in MontyDerekJohnson said:In the 1986-87 season the Sonics made the playoffs with a 39-43 record and ended up advancing to the Western Conference Finals where they got swept by the Lakers 4-0. Xavier McDaniel, Tom Chambers, Dales Ellis... Back when I cared about the NBA.
Fly ball to the short stop......caught.
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Forget about whether or not KD or RW is on the roster right now, they are worse than the Lakers. 15 games into the season they are worse than every team in the league that is trying to win (76ers don't count).
I still say that you need 50 wins to get into the playoffs in the West, Bastard Sonics now need to go 49-20 the rest of the way to get in. Good luck with that.
At any time RD, you can just say that you were wrong. -
Both guys are back at practice. They might even return Friday. Your track record predicting NBA sucks. Good luck to your Clippers getting out of the first round. 49-20 is nothing if both guys are motivated (they will be). You better pray they both get injured again.Tequilla said:Forget about whether or not KD or RW is on the roster right now, they are worse than the Lakers. 15 games into the season they are worse than every team in the league that is trying to win (76ers don't count).
I still say that you need 50 wins to get into the playoffs in the West, Bastard Sonics now need to go 49-20 the rest of the way to get in. Good luck with that.
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My Clippers?
I like watching them - but I've never been a Clipper fan or anything more than an observer of them. Same concept that I have with Golden State - who has grown up and learned to play some defense which makes them a legit contender in the West.
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I know you aren't an actual Clippers fan, but you chose them to sweep Golden State last year and beat the Thunder. Then you called them a contender before this season. OKC is making the playoffs. KD and Westbrook are coming back any day, Westbrook maybe as early as Friday.Tequilla said:My Clippers?
I like watching them - but I've never been a Clipper fan or anything more than an observer of them. Same concept that I have with Golden State - who has grown up and learned to play some defense which makes them a legit contender in the West.
It's Golden State right now that looks like they are the biggest threat to San Antonio.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11934264/kevin-durant-russell-westbrook-return-oklahoma-city-thunder-practice -
Shitty Tequila predictions superiority guyRoadDawg55 said:
I know you aren't an actual Clippers fan, but you chose them to sweep Golden State last year and beat the Thunder. Then you called them a contender before this season. OKC is making the playoffs. KD and Westbrook are coming back any day, Westbrook maybe as early as Friday.Tequilla said:My Clippers?
I like watching them - but I've never been a Clipper fan or anything more than an observer of them. Same concept that I have with Golden State - who has grown up and learned to play some defense which makes them a legit contender in the West.
It's Golden State right now that looks like they are the biggest threat to San Antonio.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11934264/kevin-durant-russell-westbrook-return-oklahoma-city-thunder-practice
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He will always have the 85-90 win Mariner prediction.dnc said:
Shitty Tequila predictions superiority guyRoadDawg55 said:
I know you aren't an actual Clippers fan, but you chose them to sweep Golden State last year and beat the Thunder. Then you called them a contender before this season. OKC is making the playoffs. KD and Westbrook are coming back any day, Westbrook maybe as early as Friday.Tequilla said:My Clippers?
I like watching them - but I've never been a Clipper fan or anything more than an observer of them. Same concept that I have with Golden State - who has grown up and learned to play some defense which makes them a legit contender in the West.
It's Golden State right now that looks like they are the biggest threat to San Antonio.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11934264/kevin-durant-russell-westbrook-return-oklahoma-city-thunder-practice -
The Thunder are fucked. Highly doubtful those two are just going to jump back in at a championship level. Not to mention KD and Westbrook have struggled finding chemistry before when Westbrook goes full ball hog and it costs them. #MyKings look like they have a legitimate chance at ending their playoff drout, the Suns are much better, the Pelicans are much better...not as many gimme games in the West as last year, which says just how strong it really is.
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By struggle you mean win around 60 games every season? The Thunder are young and haven't won a championship, but they have been a top 3-4 team going on 5 years straight.Doogles said:The Thunder are fucked. Highly doubtful those two are just going to jump back in at a championship level. Not to mention KD and Westbrook have struggled finding chemistry before when Westbrook goes full ball hog and it costs them. #MyKings look like they have a legitimate chance at ending their playoff drout, the Suns are much better, the Pelicans are much better...not as many gimme games in the West as last year, which says just how strong it really is.
They have made the conference finals 3 of the past 4 years and Westbrook was out the year they didn't make it. I hate the Thunder, but you guys are talking nonsense.
These are two of the top 5-10 players in the league on a team that has been together for awhile. They are going to be good like they always are.
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I think we've hashed this out before, but if you flipped chris paul and westbrook, both teams would benefit. KD needs to get more shots for that team to get over the hump, but Westbrooks aggressive personality will never allow it. Paul would set KD up beautifully.
Clippers have immense talent, but Griffin is too passive and would benefit from an over the top rim attacker like westbrook.
I agree individually they are top ten players, but KD needs to be 1 and he's not and that's what holds them back.
Back to the point, i just don't think they are going to hop back in the mix after so much time off and dominate a tough conference full of teams in mid-season form. That transition is going to be the difference that prevents them from making it. -
Bump.
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I can't wait to re-bump this later in the season. Roaddie you're usually one to have sound logic and not prematurely ejaculate.
They just beat the fucking Knicks. At home. They win this without Westbrook. He did look good though, i'll give you that. -
It's just a preview of what is going to happen this season. A fully motivated and pissed off Westbrook and Durant will be the best regular season team in the league. Sound logic would be realizing once 2 of the top 6-8 players in the NBA come back, a team is going to take off. Thinking they will struggle is pressing. They won't and will easily make the playoffs barring a huge injury. The premature ejactulaters are the ones who think the Thunder won't make the playoffs.Doogles said:I can't wait to re-bump this later in the season. Roaddie you're usually one to have sound logic and not prematurely ejaculate.
They just beat the fucking Knicks. At home. They win this without Westbrook. He did look good though, i'll give you that.
To get the 8 seed, they have to beat Phoenix, Sacramento, and New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if they passed the Clippers (really overrated) at #7 either.
