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School Shooting in Georgia.

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  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited September 2024

    Don't deflect.

    It's not unreasonable for legal things that can cause death to have some basic requirements. It's a societal good. Imagine roadways without licenses, vehicle registrations, and insurance requirements. If you genuinely care about providing society with a better means to curb gun violence, particularly kids getting massacred at schools, you should have no problem registering your gun and licensing your capability to operate one. I can't figure out why any rational brain would disagree with that. This is not infringement on 2nd amendment rights, it would be common sense legislation. For any law abiding citizen who cares about gun violence, that is. Nobody is taking your guns. Just sack up and get a license and gun registration. It'll take a half hour out of your day every few years. Small price to pay for your right to shoot shit with death bullets. It ain't crazy. Do you have a warrant or something?

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,261 Founders Club

    Hear about lots of societal good things and common sense laws, they generally mean more government. No one is going to take my guns, but the government just wants to know exactly where they are and who has them.

    Why can you still not answer what the penalty should be for failing to register? Does that not matter? Does the state already know I have one or something, where would they procure such a list?

    And no I do not have a warrant, I've just been naughty by exercising my free speech right. Do I need a license for that too?

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,553 Founders Club

    If you don't care about the constitution there are a lot easier ways to stop crime. Pre crime convictions. Hold without bail. Beat the fuck out of suspects. Sweeps of high crime areas. Stop and frisk. Gizmo

    But you guys want to go after law abiding citizens while crying over the rights of criminals

    Why would anyone trust you? Ban violent movies and porn. Shut down the internet. Stop giving boys drugs when they act like boys

    You fucks have spent 30 years calling anyone who wants to get tough on crime racist. People want guns thanks to leftist policies

    When Vinny the Venezuelan comes to collect the rent you better have a gun

    But we do have a constitution thank Allah

    Shall not infringe motherfucker

    And I've never owned a gun. Haven't fired one since Gettysburg

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited September 2024

    @Bob_C

    Why does my opinion about penalties matter?

    I just drove the last week on an expired license. Fines would have been $500-$1000 if I was caught. For some reason I thought I had to go to the DMV, hell on Earth, and I slacked, but then I realized I could renew it online. We're all set now.

    More strawmen to avoid the point, naturally. If one Tug member admits that guns, especially the assault weapon/mod extremes, are part of the problem, and that some real solutions to reduce risk are needed, I'll rest easy. It's not the entire problem, obviously, but it's a part of it. Trump himself banned bump stocks. What a monster.

    All I see is gangs, migrants, mandatory buyback shrieks, transgenders, and an unwillingness to take guns seriously and responsibly.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,261 Founders Club

    You're the one with the common sense plan. No specifics, but trust us it's common sense. I'm sure the penalties are pretty immaterial.

    Still super unclear how having my name on a list and a paid-up designation status next to it saves a single life. Government's just love lists I guess.

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited September 2024

    Your ideas are mostly post-facto and infringe on many of the individual freedoms you hold so dear. Sweeps, stop and frisk, pre crime convictions? I've never heard of that one, but wow. You can't be serious. The Constitution for some, but not others, sounds like.

    We already have the largest prison population by far. You want more draconian shit? That's not helping prevent gun violence and mass shootings whatsoever. That's the topic here, not gang violence. These are separate subjects. Those problems need to be tackled as well. I'm skeptical mass incarceration is the answer. We've tried that.

    Back to the point, I like to handle problems before they happen. Keeping guns out of the hands of scum and in the hands of responsible citizens, as well as mental health investment and law enforcement reforms, are all part of the solution. Otherwise we're just spinning our wheels.

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited September 2024

    Reread your post, Race. Forget my first two paragraphs. Misread.

    Laughed hard at the Gettysburg comment.