have black communities ever tried diplomacy?

dnc

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

MikeDamone said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

Not really since it's the business owner's choice to pay for it or not.

This is why the "government shutdown" of non essential employees was so awesome.

HTH.

Which is why I was exempt. Keep working, I'm slated for a 3% raise next year. Daddy needs to upgrade his already awesome Titleist blades.

3%. Wow. High fucking roller.

Must suck to be dependent on someone to give you a raise.

YRYK

Toilet sales are commission based

Baphomet

MikeDamone said:

Not really since it's the business owner's choice to pay for it or not.

The government has the choice as well. They don't have to hire people into cush jobs, but if the supply and demand for the skill warrants it... then so be it. Just like in the private sector.

Baphomet

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

MikeDamone

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Not really since it's the business owner's choice to pay for it or not.

The government has the choice as well. They don't have to hire people into cush jobs, but if the supply and demand for the skill warrants it... then so be it. Just like in the private sector.

Sure they have a choice. But don't give a fuck because it's not their money. Which leads them to make poor choices. And the supply of money to waste is endless. That's what lack of competition does to an organization. And that's why there are no natural monopolies.

MikeDamone

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

Because you used a logical fallacy to argue your position. That's how so.

Baphomet

MikeDamone said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Not really since it's the business owner's choice to pay for it or not.

The government has the choice as well. They don't have to hire people into cush jobs, but if the supply and demand for the skill warrants it... then so be it. Just like in the private sector.

Sure they have a choice. But don't give a fuck because it's not their money. Which leads them to make poor choices. And the supply of money to waste is endless. That's what lack of competition does to an organization. And that's why there are no natural monopolies.

Sounds a lot like Microsoft when I was there from 98 to 2005. Lots of money to waste, lots of senior managers that had no idea what was happening in their organizations, and a lot of people with cush jobs just putting in their time waiting for their stock options to reach maturity. It wasn't the "owners" choice that it be like that... but the company was so large by then that the owners had no clue.

Oh, and this was because Microsoft had a natural monopoly at the time in operating systems and office productivity suites.

Natural monopolies might not last a long time, but they do come and go in or economy.

And waste and cush jobs can happen in any organization... private or public. From folks I know that had career's at Boeing... it was the same story there.

Before my time at Microsoft, I did a stint as a software developer in Olympia on a licensing system. Some of the hardest working folks I ever worked with.

Your generalizations need to be rethought.

Baphomet

MikeDamone said:

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

Because you used a logical fallacy to argue your position. That's how so.

You don't really know what a logical fallacy is, do you?

EsophagealFeces

You guys are all being kind of phallusy

RaceBannon

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

You still sound defensive

Baphomet

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

RaceBannon said:

Baphomet said:

MikeDamone said:

Mosster47 said:

HFNY said:

This could be a result of the Iraq War...how many guys came back from that shit-show and became police officers?

This wasn't our fault. They knew they were going to Iraq years before they went. They took anyone that wanted in from 98-2002 and in 2005 after the president rented a flight suit and put "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier they wanted us the fuck gone.

I remember the first force shaping in the Air Force was slated for 250,000 people. The Air Force only has about 300k total right now. The Army and Marine cuts were much more severe. If you got in trouble you were gone or you could volunteer to just get out, or go into the Guard/Reserve. Almost all of us went into the Guard/Reserve but that wasn't paying any bills. A ton of us went to college on the Chapter 30 GI Bill, but that thing sucked balls.

You're four years removed from high school so everyone in your age bracket is either finishing or well ahead of you in college and you're at square zero with some experience no gives a fuck about because so did every other kid in that age group.

If you had no educational aspirations wildland fire, urban fire, or cop was pretty much your best options. Luckily I learned a very specific skill that is taught nowhere and used to land a cush government job as a civilian. The bullet sponges (the majority) didn't.

Now we have a boat load of guys that played police in Iraq coming to do it here. It is what it is.

Cush government job. Good Christ. The fact those exist is fucking bullshit.

Cush jobs exist in the private sector as well.

Do those also make you angry?

You sound defensive

How so?

You still sound defensive

How so?