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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    The quality and quantity of high school football players is dwindling. UW needs to grab the best ones when it can, but the days of stocking up on state players are over.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,152
    TheHB said:

    The quality and quantity of high school football players is dwindling. UW needs to grab the best ones when it can, but the days of stocking up on state players are over.

    I hear this from time to time, but is there any data that supports it?

    Football in WA state seems as strong as ever from a participation standpoint.

    I know Cali is down, curious about this state and the country as a whole
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    TheHB said:

    Seattle Times investigated this a few years ago and 11-man football in Washington declined by like 5,000 players over a five-year period. It hasn’t reversed that trend, especially with the crudemic.

    Both sons played during the scamdemic and yes the numbers were way down. This year's freshman class at their HS was the largest in 4 or 5 years.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    Maybe in a couple years things will turn around. But student populations in general aren’t growing. K-12 are expected to decline by more than 5% by 2030.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    brents said:

    TheHB said:

    Case closed

    STOp plagarism my shit fucko!
    20 posts in 9 years. I can shit post 20 times in 5 minutes.

    You’re an excellent role model.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    jecornel said:

    Tui, Huard’s, Locker.

    Sizemore and Tui’s younger brother probably would have ended up in the league.

    Washington preps used to put a fair amount of guys in the NFL at quarterback. It's been awhile

    Flick, Pelluer, MIllen, Chandler, Conklin. Bledsoe, Hobart etc

    sizemores dad was my little league coach

    my claim to fame
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,691 Founders Club

    Canadawg said:

    Perhaps a real football coach at UW will inspire dad's across the state to strap their kids into pads

    I mean this is actually another thing though, people and families move around a lot more now. Doubly so for a lot of the football family and prep dudes who shop which high-school to play at.

    The number of born-and-bred Huskies fans who shit purple and piss gold while growing up in Washington their whole life is also way down.

    Reclaiming our "national brand" is more important than ever in this era.
    Petersen was on a decent trajectory despite some losses to Cristobol and Urban and decided to kill all of it.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    edited December 2023

    TheHB said:

    The quality and quantity of high school football players is dwindling. UW needs to grab the best ones when it can, but the days of stocking up on state players are over.

    I hear this from time to time, but is there any data that supports it?

    Football in WA state seems as strong as ever from a participation standpoint.

    I know Cali is down, curious about this state and the country as a whole
    Some schools can barely field a team. In general participation is down not just in Washington but the west and Colorado.

    Utah and Arizona are the exceptions out west. Screw the fence. Get the dudes.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    I watched Penix beat Penn State with his legs as a freshman, but I just assumed his career was pretty much over since he was a running QB who had 46 knee injuries.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,165 Standard Supporter

    Canadawg said:

    Perhaps a real football coach at UW will inspire dad's across the state to strap their kids into pads

    I mean this is actually another thing though, people and families move around a lot more now. Doubly so for a lot of the football family and prep dudes who shop which high-school to play at.

    The number of born-and-bred Huskies fans who shit purple and piss gold while growing up in Washington their whole life is also way down.

    Reclaiming our "national brand" is more important than ever in this era.
    Migration within the US has been and is in decline.

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-migration-continued-decline-from-2020-to-2021.html
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,249 Founders Club
    Canadawg said:

    Perhaps a real football coach at UW will inspire dad's across Vancouver Island to strap their kids into pads

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,263

    Canadawg said:

    Perhaps a real football coach at UW will inspire dad's across Vancouver Island to strap their kids into pads

    https://www.goldstreamgazette.com/sports/from-one-dog-to-another-belmont-football-player-selects-college-557838

    Watched him a bit a couple years ago in Fresno but most of the big guys are coming out of Alberta, Quebec and Ontario.

    I'll have to write my local schools coaches a stern letter of disappointment
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club

    brents said:

    TheHB said:

    Case closed

    STOp plagarism my shit fucko!
    20 posts in 9 years. I can shit post 20 times in 5 minutes.

    You’re an excellent role model.

    When a Legend poasts from the grave, you respect that.

    It’s what you do.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,040 Founders Club

    Canadawg said:

    Perhaps a real football coach at UW will inspire dad's across the state to strap their kids into pads

    I mean this is actually another thing though, people and families move around a lot more now. Doubly so for a lot of the football family and prep dudes who shop which high-school to play at.

    The number of born-and-bred Huskies fans who shit purple and piss gold while growing up in Washington their whole life is also way down.

    Reclaiming our "national brand" is more important than ever in this era.
    Migration within the US has been and is in decline.

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-migration-continued-decline-from-2020-to-2021.html
    From one of the all time highs.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    TheHB said:

    Maybe in a couple years things will turn around. But student populations in general aren’t growing. K-12 are expected to decline by more than 5% by 2030.

    Good, fuck the kids. Too many stupid people making babies.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,233 Founders Club
    alumni94 said:

    It would be great if UW football along with the Seahawks pushed and helped youth football. I recall George Karl did this while at the Sonics and that is one of the major reasons there was a spike in great basketball players coming out of Seattle area. Invent in the youth, and it will pay off.

    I went to a basketball camp at Sehome High school hosted by the Sonics circa 90 or 91. I think it was Eddie Johnson and Avery Johnson. Avery had already been traded I want to say but committed to the camp and honored it which was pretty cool.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,101
    edited December 2023

    alumni94 said:

    It would be great if UW football along with the Seahawks pushed and helped youth football. I recall George Karl did this while at the Sonics and that is one of the major reasons there was a spike in great basketball players coming out of Seattle area. Invent in the youth, and it will pay off.

    I went to a basketball camp at Sehome High school hosted by the Sonics circa 90 or 91. I think it was Eddie Johnson and Avery Johnson. Avery had already been traded I want to say but committed to the camp and honored it which was pretty cool.

    alumni94 said:

    It would be great if UW football along with the Seahawks pushed and helped youth football. I recall George Karl did this while at the Sonics and that is one of the major reasons there was a spike in great basketball players coming out of Seattle area. Invent in the youth, and it will pay off.

    I went to a basketball camp at Sehome High school hosted by the Sonics circa 90 or 91. I think it was Eddie Johnson and Avery Johnson. Avery had already been traded I want to say but committed to the camp and honored it which was pretty cool.
    Yep, I went to the Seafirst Jammin Hoops Camp at Nathan Hale HS sometime in the early-mid 90's. There were several Sonics that made cameo appearances. It was great. Also went to the Mariners camp at the KingDome in the early 90's hosted by Jay Buhner, Omar Visquel and Jeff Nelson.
    Yesss. I went to the Jammin hoops camp at Centralia in the early 90s. I think Benoit Benjamin, Eddie Johnson, and Nate McMillan were there