If NOGAF About Stealing Signs…and we? now have NIL…

Doog_de_Jour

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

RaceBannon

Doog_de_Jour

RaceBannon said:

I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.

But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

Doog_de_Jour said:

RaceBannon said:

I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.

But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?

FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!

You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.

Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.

Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.

Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.

We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.

@PurpleBaze

*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot.

Doog_de_Jour

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

RaceBannon said:

I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.

But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?

FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!

You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.

Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.

Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.

Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.

We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.

@PurpleBaze

*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot.

I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.

RaceBannon

The NFL peaked in the early 90s when DeBartolo and Jones fought to win at any cost. The loser owners wanted a salary cap and luxury tax. Bunch of commies

Who knew that free market capitalism football would end up in college.

No salary cap. No rules. Just win

I don't want a minor league NFL but all the good intentions are paving this road

I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is

JoeEDangerously

Doog_de_Jour said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

RaceBannon said:

I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.

But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?

FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!

You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.

Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.

Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.

Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.

We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.

@PurpleBaze

*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot.

I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.

All roads lead to necrophilia

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

JoeEDangerously said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

RaceBannon said:

I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.

But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?

FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!

You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.

Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.

Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.

Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.

We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.

@PurpleBaze

*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot.

I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.

All roads lead to necrophilia

@trublue??!!?? True??!!??

dirtysouwfdawg

RaceBannon said:

I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is

Even @GrandpaSankey can see the purity has been fucked out of this one a long time ago.

ntxduck

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

RaceBannon

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

ntxduck

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over this

RaceBannon

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over this

They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of him


Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades

Hi Art Theil!

Fishpo31

This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.

They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.

Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...

Doog_de_Jour

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over this

Possibly. It will be some hapless assistant or coordinator who did a backroom deal to take the fall for the boss with the understanding they’ll be “rewarded” for their sacrifice later with a plum coaching gig later someplace else.The big fish get to resign…again, with the assumption that someone else will set them up with another gig. NCAA gets their symbolic head to mount over their mantle and that will be the end of it.

But my original question stands…what in your mind should still be enforced or would be so egregious that it would be worth REALLY taking action over?

Doog_de_Jour

Fishpo31 said:

This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.

They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.

Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...

I really don’t follow MLB that closely, but did the punishment the league brought down have any *real* lasting impact?

And yeah, it’s not this one instance of cheating that bothers me about Michigan, it’s all the combined shit.

Besides the obvious situations like the Sandusky scandal at Penn State, I don’t know what’s sanction worthy anymore either. But it should be *something*.

ntxduck

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over this

They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of him


Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades

Hi Art Theil!

He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either way

Fishpo31

Doog_de_Jour said:

Fishpo31 said:

This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.

They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.

Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...

I really don’t follow MLB that closely, but did the punishment the league brought down have any *real* lasting impact?

And yeah, it’s not this one instance of cheating that bothers me about Michigan, it’s all the combined shit.

Besides the obvious situations like the Sandusky scandal at Penn State, I don’t know what’s sanction worthy anymore either. But it should be *something*.

Good point...People got fired, and all MLB video rooms now are manned (or womanned) by MLB personnel, restricting access during games, in addition to relocating them away from the dugouts. No championship forfeited, no rings taken back...MLB had rules in place for electronic communication to and from the dugout, but did not anticipate anyone taking it this far. NCAA had the 'no-live scouting' rule on the books since 2013.

EDIT: I think the "penalty" part of it will be what most consider minimal, with he goal being to prevent it by instituting rigid punishment going forward. They shouldn't punish the kids, but people gotta go...

Bob_C

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

ntxduck said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?

Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?

Me

At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over this

They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of him


Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades

Hi Art Theil!

He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either way

That's my opinion also. He'll coach through the end of the year and take the Bears job or something. That might've happened before all of this too.

These kinds of stories always end up getting worse as time goes on.

ntxduck

Fishpo31 said:

This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.

They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.

Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...

Everyone does do it, legally. In-game and from what they can pick up off film. Like you said, like the Astros, UM pushed the envelope way too hard into territory no one else does.

I think Jim took the forced paycut really hard to his massive ego, and went full nick nolte in blue chips

RaceBannon

If only political reporters were as dogged as college football writers. Regardless of your persuasion in politics its striking at how fast and deep people are digging into this. They have photos of the guy going back years