If NOGAF About Stealing Signs…and we? now have NIL…


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I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.RaceBannon said:
But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing? -
FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.RaceBannon said:
But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?
You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.
Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.
Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.
Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.
We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.
@PurpleBaze
*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot. -
I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.RaceBannon said:
But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?
You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.
Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.
Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.
Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.
We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.
@PurpleBaze
*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot. -
The NFL peaked in the early 90s when DeBartolo and Jones fought to win at any cost. The loser owners wanted a salary cap and luxury tax. Bunch of commies
Who knew that free market capitalism football would end up in college.
No salary cap. No rules. Just win
I don't want a minor league NFL but all the good intentions are paving this road
I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is -
All roads lead to necrophiliaDoog_de_Jour said:
I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.RaceBannon said:
But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?
You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.
Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.
Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.
Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.
We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.
@PurpleBaze
*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot. -
@trublue??!!?? True??!!??JoeEDangerously said:
All roads lead to necrophiliaDoog_de_Jour said:
I have no idea how this board descended into talking about necrophilia, but here we are.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
FUCK OFF, FAGGOT*!Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew that gif was coming and you didn’t disappoint.RaceBannon said:
But seriously - you want this new minor league NFL, or whatever the hell we’re moving towards with realignment and the corpse of the NCAA going into rigor mortis (shoutout to @trublue) to be replaced with nothing?
You’re the one with the obsession about cadavers, Tacoma Pussy Boy.
Your boy who murdered his girlfriend and was charged with Tampering with a Corpse actually burned her corpse.
Mr. FAFO immediately thought it was necrophilia.
Meet up me in ID. I’m old and feeble.
We do have firearms and backhoes and know how to use them, though.
@PurpleBaze
*we all know @Doog_de_Jour is a woman and therefore not a faggot. -
Even @GrandpaSankey can see the purity has been fucked out of this one a long time ago.RaceBannon said:
I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is -
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
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Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
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At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
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They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil!
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This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.
They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.
Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone... -
Possibly. It will be some hapless assistant or coordinator who did a backroom deal to take the fall for the boss with the understanding they’ll be “rewarded” for their sacrifice later with a plum coaching gig later someplace else.The big fish get to resign…again, with the assumption that someone else will set them up with another gig. NCAA gets their symbolic head to mount over their mantle and that will be the end of it.ntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
But my original question stands…what in your mind should still be enforced or would be so egregious that it would be worth REALLY taking action over? -
I really don’t follow MLB that closely, but did the punishment the league brought down have any *real* lasting impact?Fishpo31 said:This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.
They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.
Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...
And yeah, it’s not this one instance of cheating that bothers me about Michigan, it’s all the combined shit.
Besides the obvious situations like the Sandusky scandal at Penn State, I don’t know what’s sanction worthy anymore either. But it should be *something*. -
He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either wayRaceBannon said:
They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil! -
Good point...People got fired, and all MLB video rooms now are manned (or womanned) by MLB personnel, restricting access during games, in addition to relocating them away from the dugouts. No championship forfeited, no rings taken back...MLB had rules in place for electronic communication to and from the dugout, but did not anticipate anyone taking it this far. NCAA had the 'no-live scouting' rule on the books since 2013.Doog_de_Jour said:
I really don’t follow MLB that closely, but did the punishment the league brought down have any *real* lasting impact?Fishpo31 said:This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.
They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.
Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...
And yeah, it’s not this one instance of cheating that bothers me about Michigan, it’s all the combined shit.
Besides the obvious situations like the Sandusky scandal at Penn State, I don’t know what’s sanction worthy anymore either. But it should be *something*.
EDIT: I think the "penalty" part of it will be what most consider minimal, with he goal being to prevent it by instituting rigid punishment going forward. They shouldn't punish the kids, but people gotta go... -
That's my opinion also. He'll coach through the end of the year and take the Bears job or something. That might've happened before all of this too.ntxduck said:
He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either wayRaceBannon said:
They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil!
These kinds of stories always end up getting worse as time goes on. -
Everyone does do it, legally. In-game and from what they can pick up off film. Like you said, like the Astros, UM pushed the envelope way too hard into territory no one else does.Fishpo31 said:This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.
They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.
Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone...
I think Jim took the forced paycut really hard to his massive ego, and went full nick nolte in blue chips -
If only political reporters were as dogged as college football writers. Regardless of your persuasion in politics its striking at how fast and deep people are digging into this. They have photos of the guy going back years
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Rumor is Courtney caught wind and decided it was time to find a coach with good old fashioned values. An honest, lunch pail type guy.Fishpo31 said:This is very similar to the Astros, IMO. "Everybody does it" gets you a little wiggle room, but it isn't a situation of "they didn't change their signs and we figured it out". "Everybody" didn't get caught flagrantly breaking a rule.
They latched on to it, had success with it, and were not discreet to the point of arrogance, just like the Astros. Having spent many years in a dugout attempting to steal signs while preventing my signs from being stolen, I saw body language and reactions with the 2017 Astros that told me something was going on. You get a guy set up, throw a perfect pitch, and it gets hammered off the wall, or over it. See it once, you shake your head. See it twice, you start looking and listening, really hard.
Jimbo Khakis crossed the line...combined with his other shit, he gone... -
Heh. Good point. The era of Woodward and Bernstein is over. But that’s true of a lot of things this day and age. Our nation’s best and brightest could’ve probably gotten us? to Mars by now but they were too busy with cryptocurrency and developing some useless app for our smartphones. (I know, take it to the Tug.)RaceBannon said:If only political reporters were as dogged as college football writers. Regardless of your persuasion in politics its striking at how fast and deep people are digging into this. They have photos of the guy going back years
In the age of social media and camera phones (which is where a lot of the evidence against this Michigan guy came from) I really don’t know how anyone can expect to get away with anything. -
They're sign sign-stealing cheaters. I'm bringing a trash can and banging the shit out of it any time the Dawgs play them in the future. I might be the first person to bring a small metal trash can as my carry-on when I go to ann Arbor.Bob_C said:
That's my opinion also. He'll coach through the end of the year and take the Bears job or something. That might've happened before all of this too.ntxduck said:
He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either wayRaceBannon said:
They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil!
These kinds of stories always end up getting worse as time goes on.
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Fucking refs shaving points. Definitely that pac-12 crew last weekend was betting the under on the points for the game.
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I know you’re being sarcastic but I’m pretty sure you can purchase a metal trash can in Ann Arbor or really anywhere in Michigan.RTD said:
They're sign sign-stealing cheaters. I'm bringing a trash can and banging the shit out of it any time the Dawgs play them in the future. I might be the first person to bring a small metal trash can as my carry-on when I go to ann Arbor.Bob_C said:
That's my opinion also. He'll coach through the end of the year and take the Bears job or something. That might've happened before all of this too.ntxduck said:
He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either wayRaceBannon said:
They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil!
These kinds of stories always end up getting worse as time goes on. -
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Real to people who think ventriloquist dummies are actually speaking?RaceBannon said: -
My four year old nephew, who refuses to go to sleep, was looking over my shoulder as I watched this and immediately shouted, “look, the poop-pee man!”ntxduck said:
Real to people who think ventriloquist dummies are actually speaking?RaceBannon said:
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Thanks for talking me off the edge. All I saw was purple.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I know you’re being sarcastic but I’m pretty sure you can purchase a metal trash can in Ann Arbor or really anywhere in Michigan.RTD said:
They're sign sign-stealing cheaters. I'm bringing a trash can and banging the shit out of it any time the Dawgs play them in the future. I might be the first person to bring a small metal trash can as my carry-on when I go to ann Arbor.Bob_C said:
That's my opinion also. He'll coach through the end of the year and take the Bears job or something. That might've happened before all of this too.ntxduck said:
He’s going to bail is what I was alluding to. Same result either wayRaceBannon said:
They might or he might bail. That would be dumb for Michigan to get rid of himntxduck said:
At minimum they’re going to lose their coach over thisRaceBannon said:
Mentxduck said:
Outside of mgoblog, who thinks what Michigan did isn’t a big deal/won’t be enforced?Doog_de_Jour said:…what in your mind should be enforced in college athletics?
Too many college football writers hate college football. That goes back decades
Hi Art Theil!
These kinds of stories always end up getting worse as time goes on. -
I'm not sure it was ever there, but at least 15 or 20 years ago there were consequences. Call me a square, but there ought to be rules with some teeth. Otherwise it's just a corporate free for all with the SEC (up until this year maybe) just cheating and buying their way to the top. Hell, even ESPN cheats for them. It's one reason I've gradually tuned out anything but the Pac 12. The same thing happened with CBB around 2010 but for different reasons. We have the ridiculous situation of West Coast schools now being in Midwest and East Coast conferences. That's not college athletics. I don't get why people are giddy about it.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Even @GrandpaSankey can see the purity has been fucked out of this one a long time ago.RaceBannon said:
I prefer under the table illusion of purity but it is what it is