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My Thoughts on The Greatest Setting in College Football

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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,549 Founders Club

    Even though I'm about to be a Trooj alumnus I'm going to chime in and say that the "urban setting" of USC is haught garbage. It's literally next to a skid row under the freeway and south central LA which is fast recovering from gentrification and going through decolonialism. The beach is the only attractive local feature worth value and it's definitely not within campus proximity.

    Gonna hate myself for this but the real competition for UW is UCLA. Westwood for campus and Pasadena for the Rose Bowl with its back against the Los Angeles National Forest and mountains. USC ain't close from an LA perspective.

    UW just needs to reassert ownership of the Rose Bowl to maintain setting superiority.

    Not so fast my friend. Pasadena is the burbs and Rose Bowl is 11 miles from Downtown LA Skidrow.

    The Rose Bowl and Husky Stadium, however, are the too most scenic college football venues and it's not really close. Army might be in their place. BYU and @89ute just aren't on par in in spite of the Wasnatch Range.
    11 miles from Downtown skid row. LA has A bunch of skid rows...one of which you can throw a rock and hit from the Coliseum parking lot. You will get stabbed with a needle simply for exiting the wrong way from a game. Csb one of my former friends I went to high-school with who has a trust fund lives in a tent under that bridge doing drugs. We see him sometimes when we go to games(and quickly go the other way).

    Seriously, I know this area well and am the board superiority guy. RIP @CirrhosisDawg for challenging me on that shit. I tailgated and had bacon wrapped hot dogs in the parking lot vs. Stanford this year ftr.

    You been to Pasadena proper in the last 20 years yella? It's like saying downtown Bellevue is the burbs.
    Bot, I'm not saying I'm more LA Metro superiority guy than you here, but I'm a native So Cali-Fag sand thus not a total ignorant 'sum bitch on these topics.

    I've been to Downtown Pasadena a lot in the past 20 years for weddings, visiting my little brother, and most recently the 2019 Rose Bowl. Pasadena has 137,000 people which is only like 30,000 more than White Wakanda. It's a suburb (albeit a large one) and not an urban core like UW being 3 miles from Downtown Seattle or GA Tech being in Downtown LA.
    Being a 137,000 suburb is kind of meaningless in a 10 million person metro no? The lines are arbitrary.

    And measuring distance to "downtown core" is also kinda meaningless in LA where sprawl is the norm and "downtown" isn't even considered the "city center". Distances in SoCal are on a different measuring tape.

    As a Cali-fag you should know this.

    I'd put it like this,

    U-district = Pasadena/Westwood

    Seattle metro = LA metro

    You can quibble it but it mostly comes down to preference and taste for the respective areas.

    The real edge UW has is the waterfront. I hear you can tailgate on a boat. While the mountains are cool tailgating on the lawn at the Rosebowl isn't that speshul in the wide world of college football.
  • DoogmanRefund
    DoogmanRefund Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,228 Swaye's Wigwam
    chuck said:

    On thing I noticed on Friday walking down to Red Square which was disappointing was how little purple gear there was amongst the student body. Not sure how well this bodes for the future. We're gonna need more Jack Doogs like @puppylove_sugarsteel (RIP) to survive in the long haul.

    But I guess we still have enough students that think and care though to pack the student section. Still need to put @UW_Doog_Bot in charge and move them back to the 50.

    I'll carry on the LW Kangaroo Jack Doog torch in pup's honor.
    I think you actually have taken some classes at UW thought. Don't think Pup ever did.
    I was just locked out of a Duck subreddit for making disparaging remarks in response to a Duck fan accusing all Husky fans of being “locals with no actual affiliation to the school”. I also got in a good natured but awkwardly contentious “discussion” with an old man at the checkout in Safeway who said “I don’t see the big deal about the Washington QB. Nix looked better in every way to me”. I tried to push his wheelchair into traffic.
    I'd be shocked is the percentage of Jack to Alumni isn't much higher for Oregon vs UW.

    Also, do we need to a separate category for guys who were accepted to either school and took classes but didn't finish? I mean was Ted Bundy a Husky or a Jack Doog?
    Maybe things have changed on this point, but when I was growing up, UW was THE fucking team around here and had a healthy Jack population. In fact, back in my TUFF Grays Harbor days, only a few of the parents who drove up to Seattle for W games were actual alums.

    In the end, it doesn't matter. Anyone can be a DWAG!!!!! Just have to get through @krisvashon first.
    UW is not really "the team" anywhere in Washington anymore. Jack doogs barely even exist. For me to see anything UW related where I live and frequent for work, shopping etc is a once a month occurrence. I see multiple zero stickers and flags and license plate holders every day.

    It is a reversal that happened in my adult lifetime. I was raised rooting for all NW teams both collegiate and pro, but not Oregon. Never. You didn't go out in public in Oregon gear around here. Cuog, Husky or even Beav but not Oregon. Somehow Bellotti and Chipster, or Knight I suppose, completely turned the natural order on it's head.
    I had this discussion with my Duck brother in law during the game. He’s a big Duck fan and alum but is basically a decent dude. He actually seemed receptive to the fact that Oregon is a manufactured hype machine that was not built organically. His only retort was “yeah but it’s not like you’d turn down the Nike money if it was presented”. That’s fair.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    TheHB said:

    The cuog issue with Husky fans who didn't go to UW cracks me up. It's literally one of the dumbest perspectives possible, and it can only be rooted in the fact that very few who went to WSU (or had relatives go there) would voluntarily be a cuog.

    You haven't spent much time in Eastern WA where 1/100th of the population went to WSU but 99% of them are coug fans. They don't understand the term hypocrite so it works for them.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    Even though I'm about to be a Trooj alumnus I'm going to chime in and say that the "urban setting" of USC is haught garbage. It's literally next to a skid row under the freeway and south central LA which is fast recovering from gentrification and going through decolonialism. The beach is the only attractive local feature worth value and it's definitely not within campus proximity.

    Gonna hate myself for this but the real competition for UW is UCLA. Westwood for campus and Pasadena for the Rose Bowl with its back against the Los Angeles National Forest and mountains. USC ain't close from an LA perspective.

    UW just needs to reassert ownership of the Rose Bowl to maintain setting superiority.

    Not so fast my friend. Pasadena is the burbs and Rose Bowl is 11 miles from Downtown LA Skidrow.

    The Rose Bowl and Husky Stadium, however, are the too most scenic college football venues and it's not really close. Army might be in their place. BYU and @89ute just aren't on par in in spite of the Wasnatch Range.
    11 miles from Downtown skid row. LA has A bunch of skid rows...one of which you can throw a rock and hit from the Coliseum parking lot. You will get stabbed with a needle simply for exiting the wrong way from a game. Csb one of my former friends I went to high-school with who has a trust fund lives in a tent under that bridge doing drugs. We see him sometimes when we go to games(and quickly go the other way).

    Seriously, I know this area well and am the board superiority guy. RIP @CirrhosisDawg for challenging me on that shit. I tailgated and had bacon wrapped hot dogs in the parking lot vs. Stanford this year ftr.

    You been to Pasadena proper in the last 20 years yella? It's like saying downtown Bellevue is the burbs.
    Bot, I'm not saying I'm more LA Metro superiority guy than you here, but I'm a native So Cali-Fag sand thus not a total ignorant 'sum bitch on these topics.

    I've been to Downtown Pasadena a lot in the past 20 years for weddings, visiting my little brother, and most recently the 2019 Rose Bowl. Pasadena has 137,000 people which is only like 30,000 more than White Wakanda. It's a suburb (albeit a large one) and not an urban core like UW being 3 miles from Downtown Seattle or GA Tech being in Downtown LA.
    Being a 137,000 suburb is kind of meaningless in a 10 million person metro no? The lines are arbitrary.

    And measuring distance to "downtown core" is also kinda meaningless in LA where sprawl is the norm and "downtown" isn't even considered the "city center". Distances in SoCal are on a different measuring tape.

    As a Cali-fag you should know this.

    I'd put it like this,

    U-district = Pasadena/Westwood

    Seattle metro = LA metro

    You can quibble it but it mostly comes down to preference and taste for the respective areas.

    The real edge UW has is the waterfront. I hear you can tailgate on a boat. While the mountains are cool tailgating on the lawn at the Rosebowl isn't that speshul in the wide world of college football.
    Quibble I will. Yes, LAX is spread the fuck out like no city in the US. But Pasadena is still a ways out from the core of LA. By your logic, we should say that Cal is in San Francisco (same distance basically and much, much closer to Oakland which is a big town).

    Disagree on Rose Bowl. The Arroyo Seco and snow capped San Gabriels are pretty unique in college football.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    On thing I noticed on Friday walking down to Red Square which was disappointing was how little purple gear there was amongst the student body. Not sure how well this bodes for the future. We're gonna need more Jack Doogs like @puppylove_sugarsteel (RIP) to survive in the long haul.

    But I guess we still have enough students that think and care though to pack the student section. Still need to put @UW_Doog_Bot in charge and move them back to the 50.

    I'll carry on the LW Kangaroo Jack Doog torch in pup's honor.
    I think you actually have taken some classes at UW thought. Don't think Pup ever did.
    I was just locked out of a Duck subreddit for making disparaging remarks in response to a Duck fan accusing all Husky fans of being “locals with no actual affiliation to the school”. I also got in a good natured but awkwardly contentious “discussion” with an old man at the checkout in Safeway who said “I don’t see the big deal about the Washington QB. Nix looked better in every way to me”. I tried to push his wheelchair into traffic.
    I'd be shocked is the percentage of Jack to Alumni isn't much higher for Oregon vs UW.

    Also, do we need to a separate category for guys who were accepted to either school and took classes but didn't finish? I mean was Ted Bundy a Husky or a Jack Doog?
    Maybe things have changed on this point, but when I was growing up, UW was THE fucking team around here and had a healthy Jack population. In fact, back in my TUFF Grays Harbor days, only a few of the parents who drove up to Seattle for W games were actual alums.

    In the end, it doesn't matter. Anyone can be a DWAG!!!!! Just have to get through @krisvashon first.
    I have no issues Jack Doogs or Jack Ducks, unless you're a 5'6" custom jersey wearing douche canoe (hi @WoolleyDoog ) with 503 Duck as the textbook example. Although when I see @puppylove_sugarsteel in the afterlife, I'm gonna give that Jack Doog a ration of shit for calling me a new fish.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,377

    Even though I'm about to be a Trooj alumnus I'm going to chime in and say that the "urban setting" of USC is haught garbage. It's literally next to a skid row under the freeway and south central LA which is fast recovering from gentrification and going through decolonialism. The beach is the only attractive local feature worth value and it's definitely not within campus proximity.

    Gonna hate myself for this but the real competition for UW is UCLA. Westwood for campus and Pasadena for the Rose Bowl with its back against the Los Angeles National Forest and mountains. USC ain't close from an LA perspective.

    UW just needs to reassert ownership of the Rose Bowl to maintain setting superiority.

    Not so fast my friend. Pasadena is the burbs and Rose Bowl is 11 miles from Downtown LA Skidrow.

    The Rose Bowl and Husky Stadium, however, are the too most scenic college football venues and it's not really close. Army might be in their place. BYU and @89ute just aren't on par in in spite of the Wasnatch Range.
    11 miles from Downtown skid row. LA has A bunch of skid rows...one of which you can throw a rock and hit from the Coliseum parking lot. You will get stabbed with a needle simply for exiting the wrong way from a game. Csb one of my former friends I went to high-school with who has a trust fund lives in a tent under that bridge doing drugs. We see him sometimes when we go to games(and quickly go the other way).

    Seriously, I know this area well and am the board superiority guy. RIP @CirrhosisDawg for challenging me on that shit. I tailgated and had bacon wrapped hot dogs in the parking lot vs. Stanford this year ftr.

    You been to Pasadena proper in the last 20 years yella? It's like saying downtown Bellevue is the burbs.
    Convince me it is not. It certainly isn't Seattle proper.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,672
    I applied and was accepted, but did not want to play beisbol in the rain, so I froze my ass off instead (It's a "dry" cold). Hence, I do not rep the W. My wife has half a closet filled with Husky stuff, enough for both of us. License plate, frame, alumni sticker, you name it, she's got it.

    I seem to see more "O" shit on the peninsula (ILTCITP), but it may just be big trucks with the giant "O" on the back window that cut me off all the time.

    My first live college football game was at TGS...UCLA in 74. Went to Pullman a couple years later, and thought it was JV in comparison. Therefore, I became a doog, albeit a jack doog...

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,879
    A conversation I had with my dad and brother on the weekend asked what percentage of people at the game had attended UW or had a family member that did/does. I guessed something like 60% based on absolutely nothing. Any thoughts from you edjemakated doogs?
  • Geevis_and_Butthead
    Geevis_and_Butthead Member Posts: 1,001



    Maybe things have changed on this point, but when I was growing up, UW was THE fucking team around here and had a healthy Jack population. In fact, back in my TUFF Grays Harbor days, only a few of the parents who drove up to Seattle for W games were actual alums.

    In the end, it doesn't matter. Anyone can be a DWAG!!!!! Just have to get through @krisvashon first.

    Wonder what percentage of Husky Stadium ticket buyers would say they care more about the university's academic mission than the football program?

    How would UW's ratio compare to Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, etc?