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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,559 Standard Supporter
    Indictment is fantasyland. He threatened Pence with the crowd? That's funny.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,209 Founders Club
    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,321
    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    Any answer would be speculation, but I'd guess Smith was trying to take away the argument that his prosecution was intended to disqualify Daddy under the 14th Amendment.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,884 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    You mean why Ray Epps who was on the ground saying "We need to go into the Capitol" wasn't indicted? Ask the dazzler. Why weren't antifa/blm leaders indicted for inciting and funding violent protest during Trump's inauguration? I have no problem with indicting people who entered the Capitol as long as that it also applies to dem groups who invade the Capitol and that the sentences are proportionate. The summer of love riots had the full support of almost every dem Congressman and Blue State governors and city mayors.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,209 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    You mean why Ray Epps who was on the ground saying "We need to go into the Capitol" wasn't indicted? Ask the dazzler. Why weren't antifa/blm leaders indicted for inciting and funding violent protest during Trump's inauguration? I have no problem with indicting people who entered the Capitol as long as that it also applies to dem groups who invade the Capitol and that the sentences are proportionate. The summer of love riots had the full support of almost every dem Congressman and Blue State governors and city mayors.
    Your answer gets to basically what I think the reason is. Charge him for incitement in relation to the riot and the riot itself is on the table for actual examination.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,884 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    You mean why Ray Epps who was on the ground saying "We need to go into the Capitol" wasn't indicted? Ask the dazzler. Why weren't antifa/blm leaders indicted for inciting and funding violent protest during Trump's inauguration? I have no problem with indicting people who entered the Capitol as long as that it also applies to dem groups who invade the Capitol and that the sentences are proportionate. The summer of love riots had the full support of almost every dem Congressman and Blue State governors and city mayors.
    Your answer gets to basically what I think the reason is. Charge him for incitement in relation to the riot and the riot itself is on the table for actual examination.
    You need to prove incitement. Asking for a peaceful protest with no mention of going into the Capitol Building isn't incitement and is protected as free speech. Where is Ray Epps? Complaining because you think the election was stolen (it was) can't be incitement if it's okay for major dem politicians to make the false claim that every Republican presidential victory since 2000 was stolen.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    Any answer would be speculation, but I'd guess Smith was trying to take away the argument that his prosecution was intended to disqualify Daddy under the 14th Amendment.
    And yet

    You suck at this
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,209 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    Curious for the legal scholars on this thread, why wasn't he indicted for incitement of the events on J6 that the committee told us were really really bad and he did it? Was that an illusion? Thanks in advance.

    Any answer would be speculation, but I'd guess Smith was trying to take away the argument that his prosecution was intended to disqualify Daddy under the 14th Amendment.
    Then frame it as inciting a riot and not an insurrection. We had a whole committee last summer that thought this was a big deal and that did a criminal referral over the capitol riot incitement.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,661 Standard Supporter
    Question #1
    Wasn't Trump acquitted by the Senate in the second impeachment concerning Jan 6 insurrection.
    Question #2
    Are we crossing into double Jeopardy with this new indictment?
    (Asking for a fren)