Lost a decent, situational pass rusher. Not a huge blow but I would have been happier if he was still at UW for his senior year.
I'm sure he was shown the door for a reason though. It's not real surprising that an overhyped recruit, with known character issues, that dropped to the bottom of Sark's depth chart would not stick around for his senior season with a new staff known to have higher standards.
Shirley's a one-trick pony that rushes the passer with a speed move.
As RoadDawg mentioned, he's not great but he's not terrible. He's not a waste of a roster spot on an 85 man roster ... but at the same time you're not relying on him to be great.
So what we are agreeing on here is he didn't come close to living up to the hype.
Lost a decent, situational pass rusher. Not a huge blow but I would have been happier if he was still at UW for his senior year.
I'm sure he was shown the door for a reason though. It's not real surprising that an overhyped recruit, with known character issues, that dropped to the bottom of Sark's depth chart would not stick around for his senior season with a new staff known to have higher standards.
Peterman apologist.
This whole thread sounds exactly like what was going on on doogman when Coach Willingham started running off players, some of whom had issues,yes, but still....could play.
Lost a decent, situational pass rusher. Not a huge blow but I would have been happier if he was still at UW for his senior year.
I'm sure he was shown the door for a reason though. It's not real surprising that an overhyped recruit, with known character issues, that dropped to the bottom of Sark's depth chart would not stick around for his senior season with a new staff known to have higher standards.
Peterman apologist.
This whole thread sounds exactly like what was going on on doogman when Coach Willingham started running off players, some of whom had issues,yes, but still....could play.
THis whole thread belongs over on doogman
So you're not saying he is TW, or comparing him to TW, but we should be asking questions? A lot of twisting going on here.
Shirley was a Sark guy but was reduced to a situational player under Sark. He's not a big loss. HTH
the whole thing is less extreme than under TW. Peterman is much better. But, it still sounds ominously like the talk going on on doogman when, eg., Chambers was run off.
Every time he entered the game we immediately knew what the opposing team's gameplan was. They'd line up and run directly at him. He'd crumble like a house of cards every time.
I'll always remember him on a slightly fond manner for his performance against Baylor, didn't he have like 7 sacks in the game?
Shirley was a good pass-rushing specialist when Kikaha wasn't around and before Cory Littleton showed up. His best years were the two years that Kikaha was injured and when Littleton was not here/redshirting.
I suppose with Shirley gone, that moves Jojo Mathis and Marcus Farria up the depth chart. Too bad Sark burned both their redshirts last year.
He didn't live up to the hype because his coach was FFS, hth.
So you're saying he didn't live up to the hype.
I thought Wilcox was a fucking genius or something, no?
This isn't about Wilcox. Or is fat fucking Sark not responsible for his players and assistant coaches?
Most people give Wilcox, not sark, the credit for improving the defensive. Can't have it both ways. If Wilcox gets the credit for improving players, he gets the blame for when they regress. Or are you giving Sark credit for the improving play on defense. Please clarify.
Every time he entered the game we immediately knew what the opposing team's gameplan was. They'd line up and run directly at him. He'd crumble like a house of cards every time.
I'll always remember him on a slightly fond manner for his performance against Baylor, didn't he have like 7 sacks in the game?
Actually, it seems very reasonable to say that Wilcox improved elements of the defense while at the same time failed to connect with certain players. Who on the coaching staff decided to give Shirley a shot after the laptop thing? Assuming Sark and Nansen. Like I said earlier in the thread, wgaf, next.
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I'm sure he was shown the door for a reason though. It's not real surprising that an overhyped recruit, with known character issues, that dropped to the bottom of Sark's depth chart would not stick around for his senior season with a new staff known to have higher standards.
This whole thread sounds exactly like what was going on on doogman when Coach Willingham started running off players, some of whom had issues,yes, but still....could play.
THis whole thread belongs over on doogman
I thought Wilcox was a fucking genius or something, no?
Shirley was a Sark guy but was reduced to a situational player under Sark. He's not a big loss. HTH
I'll always remember him on a slightly fond manner for his performance against Baylor, didn't he have like 7 sacks in the game?
I suppose with Shirley gone, that moves Jojo Mathis and Marcus Farria up the depth chart. Too bad Sark burned both their redshirts last year.
Most people give Wilcox, not sark, the credit for improving the defensive. Can't have it both ways. If Wilcox gets the credit for improving players, he gets the blame for when they regress. Or are you giving Sark credit for the improving play on defense. Please clarify.
HTH.
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